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>>Mr Gillhooley should stop smoking those funny cigarettes!<<

I agree. While it's entirely possible that a static vessel could be built which on the surface would be visually identical to the Titanic, the end result will be anything but a faithful replica and at £270 million, will be bloody expensive to boot. The article stated that he's hoping to get lottery funding for part of this project. I'll believe it when I see it.
 
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Nothing could even come close to living up to the grand lady herself. To me, Titanic II would be a Second rate wanna be
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Let's see. An exact replica of Titanic would presumably come fully equipped with such attractions as primitive radio, inadequate lifeboats, and no radar. Add to this a shortage of such luxuries as private bathrooms and no air conditioning. Fit her out with a completely outmoded propulsion system, assuming you can find anybody to rivet the blasted thing together in the first place, and Hey Presto!

The biggest White Elephant of all time is the end result. Now, how much longer does this silly nonsense have to carry on for?
 
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>>Now, how much longer does this silly nonsense have to carry on for?<<

Probably for as long as somebody thinks it would be a moneymaking scheme. All I can say to anybody attempting to pull it off is "Good luck."
 
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Moneymaking scheme? At £270m? I'd just love to see the business plan. Even in the unlikely event, to put it mildly, of being able to extract half of it from the Lottery Fund, that still leaves £135m to be found. And even given a modest interest rate on the loan, or rate of return to a consortium, amortized over 20 years, it would need according to my very rough and scratchy calculations an excess of income over running expenditures of something like £350k a day ..... dig deep, everyone!
 
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>>Moneymaking scheme? At £270m? I'd just love to see the business plan.<<

So would I. Does anyone seriously think this scheme is going to take in £350k a day and that much needed just to break even? I don't know of any museum that does that well.
 
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Just think of the possibilities for movie making. You could televise a soap opera from onboard. You could lease out the boiler rooms to the department of corrections, a couple of shifts stoking those boilers might give the criminal element pause to consider their ways.Maybe they could get Dr. Ballard to run it for them. But then he'd probably make you sit in a warehouse on the pier and view the ship through remote cameras. Personally I don't think I'll ever see it, nor would I want to.
 

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There is an hotel in Blackpool (the Norbreck Hydro) built to resemble the superstructure of a liner sans funnels.

Perhaps something on these lines is proposed, purely as a riverscape feature.

If that is so, Titanic has only a tenuous connection with Liverpool. Lusitania on the other hand would reflect the history of the port and be a much more relevant objective. Revenue potential would not be diminished and the largely indifferent general public would still end up being suitably educated.

Can't speak for the Germans though!

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To me, Titanic is a tragedy that deserves respect. If this 'replica' was done correctly and respected the history and tragedy of Titanic I'm all for it. What I don't agree with is people capitalizing on Titanic. Too many people see it as a profit instead of history. Unfortunately, I suppose that's human nature and Titanic is definitely not the first nor last to be capitalized on. Afterall, who hasn't heard of Titanic? I saw the old movie Ghostbusters II last night and had to laugh at the scene "He says the Titanic just arrived!" "Better late than never!"
 
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>>Finally a serious idea.<<

Actually, it's wishful thinking though I can see where this guy might *think* it's a serious idea. Now if he's willing to present all and sundry with a detailed prospectus explaining exactly what he has in mind and going into detail about how he intends to finance the project and make it a viable moneymaking business in the long run, then I might start to get the idea that he's serious.
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I would really like to see the Titanic replica built. I also think that it would attract alot of attention but i dont think that it should be allowed to be in Liverpool. The white star offices may have been there and the ship had Liverpool written on her stern, but i still think it would be in the wrong place.

If Gillhooley's vision works out, which is highly unlikely with the great cost, i think that it woult be very popular and would probably make alot of money for the first month of it opening but then i think that it would just die out like most of the museums in England.
 
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Are museums dying out in Britain? I read recently that, with the cancelling of entry charges, museums were experiencing a considerable revival of visitors, albeit mainly the Natural History and Science Museums in London, which are very large and famous.

However, I think you may well be right about a Titanic2 and Gillhooley's idea. Not a long-term money-spinner, so a non-starter basically.

So, I think we have to rely on imagination, or otherwise wait for time-travel. Which doesn't seem very likely, given that we have no time-travellers interrupting our everyday lives, coming back to poke around in the 21st century. Shame, really.
 
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There were so many ideas for building a Titanic replica in the passed years and no plan was even started. I generally do not believe that any of these ideas will become true. The last project I had heard about was this one: http://english.people.com.cn/200202/06/eng20020206_90034.shtml
It was scheduled for being ready this year, but first (and last!) news about that project are dated from Feb 2002, the date of the announcement. Does anybody know anything about some progress?

To say it with Michael: "I'll believe it when I see it" - and I mean a finished work.

Best regards
Henning

P.S.: This little replica dream indeed became true: http://titanik.wz.cz (adress without "www")
 
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Henning, the absolute *lack* of news and progress in this case speaks volumns for every single one of these schemes. If there was a for real, completed and operational ship in the water, the news media would be all over it like a dirty nappy on a baby's butt.
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This project in the link you posted might very well be happening, but take note of this excerpt from the article: "The popularity of the 1997 film Titanic was the inspiration for the planned concrete and steel model of the 269-metre ship, Concord vice-president Guan Zhaoqiang said." In other words, what they're building is a static and very superficial dummy. Not even close to being an operational vessel...though some of the shops might be interesting.
 

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I suspect the Liverpool project might have been inspired by the film set built there recently for the documentary about the building of Titanic. I believe parts of it were quite impressive.
 

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