I agree wtiht you Julian and your sentiments. As you very well know, the Californian affair is one of my main interests. I pursue it, not to demonstrate my skills, or convey superiority, but in the hope that someday, I can use my skills and knowledge to clear a man's name. Also that he may be properly remembered in history as the master of the only other ship that actually attended the disaster scene and thereafter, searched the area before leaving it. If I can persuade you and others of this then my goal will be achieved. However, if you are right, I am only too willing to be proved so by constructive argument. supported by irrevocable evidence... most certainly not by the simple declarations of "I believe and "I am of the opinion of." The expression "brick wall" has been used. the two quoted expressions are the key stones of such a wall.Seems a bit odd for Arun to ask to shut down a "pointless thread" he jumped on and drove forward...
Some of us know what Jim and Sam are sparring over...
The Moderators have shut down/locked virtually all discussion over The Californian, but The Californian is why I continue to pay my subs on here; and the Moderators's clear statement on all this would be welcome - indeed from PH himself, as I am paying for this site via my annual subs.
I know that the Moderators and PH don't accord with my view by inference. They might take the view that certain of us ought to be banned and our subs no longer wanted for dare to mention The Californian or matters pertaining to it. Or they might just to decide to ban Jim Currie in isolation, which personally, and as much as I vehemently disagree with him on some matters, I don't support.
Much of the stuff on this thread of recent has really been about which heading Titantic ended up - after hard a stern, hard a port, ring down telegraph to engine room, stop engines, boiler rooms then stop (feeding the boilers and shut the boiler dampers).
I have not the slightest doubt Boxhall was wrong, and Titanic ended up heading northwards. This is what it is all about. I have lots of questions that I have myself formed an opinion upon as to what Murdoch did before and just after the collision.
I am being quite frank here; I don't have an agenda, my 'not the slightest doubt' is open to persuasion, and I am open to other views and debate over all this. But if you come to this with an agenda over The Californian, then state it, then debate. Put your colours to your mast!
Keep safe everyone and keep everyone else safe in doing so.