Wow, it is unfortunate that you can't see the irony in your argument as that is the real hilarity in this thread. Because of your inability to take any constructive criticism this thread is likely over. The short time ice been on hear I haven't seen anyone react so childishly in a debate like you. You seem to not know what a debate is.Stop lying. It's about time some members climbed off their pedestal and toned down their self righteousness. It is a great disservice to the truth. If I want to believe the bow rose up, then I am fully entitled to do so without fear of personal attacks. This topic is yet another trolling of insults against me personally, and those members will be reported. The audacity that they think they can turn around and play the victim is laughable. Anyone who insults another member will be reported. I read the survivor accounts which state the lights were on after the ship broke and that the ship broke before the funnels fell and that the stern turned around after it broke. I listed the survivors and gave my personal opinion. That's it. Now if anyone can't accept those accounts or my interpretation, then that is their own problem. They can debate each individual account like a normal person. Instead all I hear from several members are rants about them being unable to accept anything that I propose because it doesn't fit with the mainstream narrative or whatever limited science can provide.
Again any personal attacks will be reported. I have several work colleagues here in Belfast who know plenty about the Titanic and shipbuilding, but refuse to come to his forum because of blatant attacks against members simply because their views are different.
I will take responsibility though. Seeing how you react in debates in the past it was foolish of me to strike up a conversation with you, that questioned your theory. I apologize to the other members as had it not been for me starting this conversation Aarons meltdown would not have happened.