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Discussion in 'Guestbook and Comments' started by Philip Hind, Nov 20, 1996.

  1. Very interesting as I am researching my family tree on Ancestry.ca. Attending the Titanic exhibit in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA a few years back and, upon exiting the area you came across the passenger lists for all classes. To my surprise at the top of the 1st Class passenger list was the Allison family..WOW to say the least as I was born Linda Christine Allison on Dec. 25, 1953 in Rossland, British Columbia, Canada. Quite a treat to find all this info on hand.
     
  2. Did ships such as Titanic have any kind of "speedometer" for an instant and continuous report of speed ?
    Most accounts of speed appear to be based on engine revolutions ?
     
  3. >>Did ships such as Titanic have any kind of "speedometer" for an instant and continuous report of speed ?<<

    Not that I'm aware of. The technology would have existed to put something together and somebody may well have come up with something but I'm not aware of any such device which was in widespread use. Most ships would have worked it out the old fashioned way; with log lines and navigation fixes.

    Captain Currie may have better information on this.
     
  4. Michael, once again my apologies for a dumb question. On second thought, there are so many variables involved - cross currents and fore and aft currents affecting the ship's speed in addition to the effects of winds, also from all directions. The bicycle speedometers depended on a direct drive off one of the wheels and more or less in relation to RPM's, which leads us back to reckoning speed by way of the engine RPM's. (The famous 78 RPM on Titanic, for example.)It would seem that some kind of computer to take all these effects into account and come up with the true speed would be the only solution to the problem of a "ship's speedometer."
     
  5. >>Michael, once again my apologies for a dumb question. <<

    Robert, the only dumb question is the one which needs an answer but which one fails to ask. I know for a fact that such instruments exist today because I've seen them in use on the bridge of the USS Comstock. What I'm not sure of is the source of the data they use but I suspect it may be either GPS or SINS.
     
  6. The Dream and then the Nightmare: The Syrians who boarded the Titanic-the Story of the Arabic-speaking Passengers is now available - the book can be ordered from:
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  7. Jim Currie

    Jim Currie Member

    Hello Robert T. Page!

    Sorry about the lateness of this reply.

    You were absolutely spot -on with your reasons why a speedometer would not work well on a ship. The same reason apply more or less to using engine revolutions. Michael is correct. There is only one way - even up to the present day using sat. nav. - to determine a ship's average speed and incidentally, the true direction she made good during her travels and that is by establishing two correct, exact positions and measuring or calculating the distance between them then applying lapsed time.

    JC
     
  8. Hello Jim and Michael -
    This is admittedly a rather old comment on an old thread that I'm refering to :

    Michael-
    >> know for a fact that such instruments exist today because I've seen them in use on the bridge of the USS Comstock. What I'm not sure of is the source of the data they use but I suspect it may be either GPS or SINS.<<

    I'll have to admit my "Bridge Experience" on the USS Kenneth Whiting was solely to check out the radar repeater, so I wasn't aware of any other instruments. But that was way back in the dark ages of the previous century.

    Jim-
    >>that is by establishing two correct, exact positions and measuring or calculating the distance between them then applying lapsed time.<<

    I've checked my car's speedometer by using a stopwatch between mile markers. For example at 60MPH it should take exactly 60 seconds between mile markers. But even my relatively cheap GPS gives me accurate speed readings of the car.
     
  9. Hello, I am trying to contact Senan Molony but his details are no longer on the system. Can anyone please provide an email address?
    Thank you
    Genevieve x
    ( g.laursey@gmail.com )
     
  10. DavidJon

    DavidJon Member

    Davidjon

    To Frank Nesson. With regard to your quest to identify your great-uncle's body, many of those victims who could not be identified were buried at sea and only about half the victims' bodies were found so I fear that you were not successful.

    By the way as a fellow-Titanic enthusiast and being Jewish, I've compiled a list of passengers who were probably Jewish and I've included your great-uncle. I assume he was - I think that there were about 60-70 Jewish passengers.
     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2013
  11. We are the family of Marion Kenyon. Mrs George P Baldwin was my great grandmother.
     
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  12. Kenyon's are our family. Marion was my fathers great aunt.

    My great grandmother was mrs George P Baldwin. We would like to connect if possible: Kathylangager@aol.com

     
  13. Kyrila Scully

    Kyrila Scully Member

    Thanks for inviting me back, Phil. I'll post a link on my Facebook group page for TITANIC IMPACT PERFORMANCE EXHIBITIONS and encourage people to visit.
     
  14. SueFreitag

    SueFreitag Member

    Hoping to contact Richard Jarvis, I know it's years since he posted this but we have only just come across this information. We have traced the Jarvis family through Wales and established the connection with the Titanic and how John Denzil Jarvis and Ernest George Jarvis were related, but our main focus is Alice.

    Alice Gertrude Lant was my husband's grand aunt. He and his cousin who were both born in Llandovery would like to find out what happened to her. Her son Ernest George Jarvis was Baptised in St Mathias Church Treharris, (which is near Bedlinog) 9 Jan 1910, this was almost two years after the death of his father Ernest Herbert Jarvis registered in Merthyr Tydfil July 1908. The last definite information we have about Alice is 29 June 1917 when she registered the death of her mother. Both were living at 3 Chapel Street, Treorchy at that time.

    Alice's niece told us that Alice is buried in Llandovery alongside her father George Lant. We know where his grave is but it's unmarked and to date enquiries with the Vicar have failed to trace Alice's burial there. However, we have no idea when she died or her surname at the time.

    Any contact from Richard Jarvis or anyone who knows him or how to contact him would be greatly appreciated.

    Sue and Stewart Freitag
    Caerphilly, Wales
     
  15. John Henry Hesketh was born on 29th January 1879 at 40 Croylands Street, Kirkdale, Lancashire. His father Henry was actually born in 1848 in Rainford but his age is mis-recorded in the 1881 (?) census so it appears that he was born in 1828.
     
  16. julie skehen

    julie skehen Member

    Timothy J McCarthy was my Great Grandfather as well. We have a copy of the letter too. My grandfather was his son Edmund.
     
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