Smoking room painting

[Christina Miller]

I was just wondering about something.

In Walter Lord's "A Night To Remember", the painting in the First Class Smoking Lounge, the one that Thomas Andrews was last seen staring off into space at, was said to be "Approach of the New World". However, I've heard that it might not have been that painting, and that particular painting might have instead been on the Olympic.

I know of the two paintings, one was supposed to be of Plymouth Harbor, and one of New York.

Which painting was on Titanic?

 

[Charles Provost]

Dear Christina, the one that was installed in the Titanic's smoking lounge was 'Plymouth Harbor'. This is what I've heard in a great majority of books. 'Approach to the New World' was on Olympic. I have no informations regarding the painting of New York. Best regards,

Charles

 

[Daniel Rosenshine (Danielr)]

Hi Christina and Charles!

"Titanic Voices" deals with the two paintings showing what both looked like, even in colour. Charles is right about the "Plymouth Harbor" being on the Titanic.

Daniel.

 

[Christina Miller]

Okay... that means that the painting of New York was "Approach of the New World".


Thanks!


Chris

 

[Charles Provost]

Christina: Yes, the painting of New York you was reffering to is most probably 'Approach to the New World', on Olympic. There is a good reproduction of the painting in Cyberflix 'Titanic: Adventure out of Time'. Hope this helps,

Charles

 

[oakers]

The actual painting "Approach to the New World" which adorned the fireplace in the 1st class smoking room aboard RMS Olympic is on show in the Southampton Maritime Museum. Adjacent to it is a copy of "Plymouth Harbour 1910" painted by the original artist's son after extensive research. These are shown in colour in "Titanic Voices". Also of interest in this excellent museum is the wooden panel of "Honour and Glory crowning time" (minus clock) from Olympic. It is in the state from which it was removed from Olympic in late 1935 - painted white with gold edging. (Apparently White Star attempted to modernise her interiors in the early thirties and this is one of the things they did. The men who built the staircase thought it ghastly!) THIS MUSEUM IS A MUST FOR ALL THOSE INTERESTED IN THE TITANIC

 

[Prissy]

How much did the paintings usually sell for? And where there any famous or well known artists on board?

 

[Dave Gittins]

The American painter Frank Millet was on board and was lost. He had been one of a group of expatriate Americans who worked in an artists' colony in England. The only one of the group of any importance was Henry James. Millet painted historical scenes but had more skill than inspiration and is not regarded as a major painter today.

 

[Linda Goodswin]

Hi can anyone tell me any information on the paining Thomas Andrews was looking at in the smoking room (I say that losely because i am still unsure he was) when the titanic sunk and is there any photos on the internet of it please

 

[Thomas Krom]

Hello Miss Goodwin,





The painting in the first class smoking room on the Titanic was “Plymouth Harbour” painted by Norman Wilkinson.

The painting was 68 inches wide and 31 inches high behind glass above the 8 feet wide and 4 feet and 9 inches high fireplace, which was the only functional fireplace on-board. Thomas Andrews Jr was seen with his arms folded on his chest before 1:40 by Verandah café steward John Stewart (who left the ship in boat 15). Thomas Andrews was later seen on deck by survivors.

On the Olympic however the painting was "Approach to the new world" also by Norman Wilkinson.





I hope this will help.





Yours sincerely,





Thomas

 

[Linda Goodswin]

thank you it was helpful

 

[Linda Goodswin]

do you think Thomas Andrews was really seen in the smoking room or is that just hear say i always thought he was up on deck helping with the lifeboats. If he was seen do you think it was shock about the ship sinking or he blamed himself ( which in no way he needed to)

 

[Thomas Krom]

While it was not his last sighting there is no reason to doubt John Steward sighting. He went to the smoking room after he helped stewardess Mary Sloan in lifeboat number 16. He was later seen on deck again around 2 o’clock.

 

[Kate Powell]

Around what time would you say Thomas Andrews assisted Captain Smith with trying to call the lifeboats back to take on more passengers?

 

[Thomas Krom]

Around 2 o'clock, more than 20 minutes after the sighting in the smoking room.