Survivors that died in World Wars


Philip Hind

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<!-NOTE: Message edited by 'admin'-!>Does anyone know of any Titanic survivors that died in action during World War One or Two.

I can think of only Archie Jewell and Daniel Buckley.

Found this on Jewell from the Commonwealth War Graves Commission:

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In Memory of

Able Seaman ARCHIE JEWELL
S.S. "Donegal" (Belfast), Mercantile Marine
who died aged 28 on Tuesday, 17th April 1917.

Able Seaman JEWELL was the son of John Jewell, and the late Elizabeth Jewell; husband of Bessie Jewell (Nee Heard), of 50, Bond Rd., Bitterne Park, Bitterne, Hants. Born at Bude, Cornwall.
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Found no entry for Buckley.

Any ideas on others?

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Greaser Frederick William Scott on September 28, 1915.

Robert William Pusey on May 28, 1918 (The Commonwealth War Graves Commission says he died May 18th but his death certificate says May 28th).

The John Pearse listed in the CWGC is apparently not the same guy on Titanic.

Will send you one more privately.
 

Philip Hind

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Thanks Phil! Just been back to CWGC looks like the correct date is given:

ROBERT WILLIAM PUSEY
Fireman
M.M.R. H, Mercantile Marine Reserve
who died on
Tuesday, 28th May 1918. Age 28.
Additional Information: Son of William and Ellen Florence Pusey, of Hythe; husband of Edith Kate Pusey, of The Marsh, Hythe, Southampton.
 
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Daniel Rourke

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Hi all

Many thanks for bringing up a very interesting topic.

According to my own files Daniel Buckley died on November 11, 1918, the final day of the war. Of course, as you all stated, there is no record for this so confirmation would be great!

Best of luck

Daniel, Co Fermanagh
 
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Kathleen McNulty

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Hi,
can I echo Mr Rourke's feelings about this new topic. I have also had a browse and came up with these names which match very closely to those crewmen on the Titanic:

Percy Ball: Monday, 2nd October 1916. Age 26
Walter Binstead, 17 September 1916
Edward John Buley, 12th December 1917. Age 32.

I am not saying that these are fact but they do warrant investigation. Is it true also that William John Mellors and Edward Dorkings were KIA? I can find no record of either of these men.

Kathleen McNulty, Cardiff
 
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That is the correct Buley but not the same Ball or Binstead who both lived well beyond the war. I haven't been able to track down what became of Mellor(s). Eddie Dorkings did see military service but was not killed. He lived a long but somewhat useless life, estranged from his relatives-and at the time of his death, no one bothered to claim his remains. I'm working on an article about him for one of the Titanic organization magazines which hopefully will appear in the near future.
 

Chris Dohany

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There is another that I'm not sure about, kitchen porter Reginald Hardwick. There is a Reginald Hardwick of the approximate age in the CWGC files who died (in ground battle it appears) on 4 March 1916.
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Though not a combatant, we should probably add Trimmer: Lional Edgar Perry to the list. According to the bio on this site, he and is wife died in an air raid during World War II in Southampton in Nov. 1940.

Arthur
 

Chris Dohany

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Along the same lines as Ed Perry, There's Robert Hichens, who apparently according to family legend died in an air raid. Unlike Perry, however, whose death is registered as a civilian casualty, I haven't seen documentation on Hichens' death.
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I've searched in vain for any documentation on Hichens death during World War II. There is no death certificate on file for him in England. So perhaps that is not correct information--or maybe he was using a different surname. Then, too, maybe no one bothered to file a record.
 

John Clifford

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One can, in effect, include Edmond Navaratil.

During World War II, Edmond was captured by the Germans and held in a POW camp, though he later escaped.
As a result, his health deteriorated, and he died in 1953.
His death was not during the War, but can be considered "due to the War".
 

Brian Meister

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I keep reading about Edgar Lionel Perry, who,
with his wife was killed in an air-raid in South-
ampton in 1940. I have seen the civilian record
of death, and it in no way indicates that he is
the Titanic survivor, E Perry. Would someone
kindly submit the source for this information.
I would like to include him as a known survivor,
but will not do so until I have the proof.

Thanks,

Brian
 
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Andrew Williams

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Phil,

I know this is a bit late adding more to this thread, but it would appear there's possibly another who will have to be treated as a question mark.
If you look very carefully there's no confirmation regarding his age nor is there any hint of his place of residence anywhere to be found in the United Kingdom.
I just wonder if this is the real WILLIAM GEORGE WHITE??????????/

In Memory
WILLIAM GEORGE WHITE

Leading Stoker
K/717
H.M.S "PARAGON". Royal Navy
who died on
Saturday, 17th March 1917.

Any ideas Folks on what you think??
 

Tracy Smith

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The Chief Officer of the Californian, George Frederick Stewart, died at the age of 62 in March 1940, when the ship he was on, the SS Barnhill, was bombed and sunk. He was a retired ship's master who had temporarily returned to sea as third officer of the Barnhill to help out the captain, an old friend.
 

Chris Dohany

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Andrew,
The William George White who served aboard Titanic was still alive at the end of the war, according to White's seaman registration.
 
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Andrew Williams

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Thanks Chris-for elobrating a bit more about William George White.

May I ask a question. In what direction do I obtain a copy of the White Star Seaman Regisration?

Once again, many thanks-Andrew.
 

Chris Dohany

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Seaman's Registration files are kept at the Public Records Office. The PRO published a CD-ROM with many surviving Titanic crew registrations on it; this should be available at the PRO's website. I get the impression that this particular form of registration was not kept prior to 1918 so only Titanic crewmen who survived the sinking and survived the war (and, of course, continued sailing) would be registered.
 
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Andrew Williams

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Chris-Am I right in saying the CD-ROM published by the PRO was called: TITANIC The True Story?

I already have this copy amongst my collection, althought I haven't been able to find the time and browse through the various forums.

If this is the case, then what thread do I search for the Seamans Registrations?

Your guidence in this matter would be very much appreciated.

Regards and many thanks-Andrew.
 

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