SUVIVOR NOT LISTED

[Joy Singer]

I TOOK CARE OF A SURVIVOR IN A NURSING HOME IN SOUTHERN WISCONSIN--PLATTEVILLE TO BE EXACT NAMED JOHN McDermott --I don't see him on the survivor list--this was is 1971-1973---local newspaper articles supported this story--he had supposedly traveled to england with his doctor--the doctor had taken him there to get a glass eye as he had lost his in an accident--they were returning to the US on the Titanic--can anyone varify this?
the local newspaper in platteville wisconsin did a feature story on him and two women survivors while i lived there somewhere between 1971-1973--thanks

 

[Dave Gittins]

I have two phoney "survivors" just in Adelaide, South Australia, plus a phoney who was "lost".

If he's not on Encyclopedia Titanic the chances are he is another teller of tall tales.

It has been said that if all the people allegedly on Titanic had really been there, she would have quietly settled to the bottom of the Southampton dock.

 

[Shane Worthy]

Joy,
Dave is right. Your patient was most likely telling a tall tale. Sorry...
All Ahead Full!
Shane N. Worthy

 

[Chad Swon]

Having years to be able to revise and correct the Encyclopedia Titanic list of passengers, workers, deck hand, etc... Do they feel that the lists are 100% accurate and all accounted for now?

 

[Lester Mitcham]

Hello Chad,

I have not counted the names to arrive at the numbers, but if the lists [even if some of the names have been amended] come from the source I understand them to have come from the numbers should be spot on.

As to the names, the exactness of these are revised as better informations come to hand.

Lost 1,496; Saved 712 = 2,208 on Board.

Is that what the lists yield?

 

[Cara Ginter]

From what I understand, no list can be 100% accurate, is this not correct? Some people did not board when the ship left, others boarded and their names were not on the first list. I think there was probably a final list on the ship of all the passengers, but that would have sunk along with Titanic.
But I suppose not all gave their correct name when they arrived in New York, possibly some gave no name at all, and all those lost, well we cannot possibly tell, because not all the bodies were found, and even most of those that were, were not properly identified. So... it is possible that your patient was indeed a survivor, yet is it just as likely, taking into consideration the amount of people who do indeed lie about being on the Titanic, that he was lying. One cannot be absolutely sure.

 

[Arthur Merchant]

While it is possible there are remaining enigmatic passengers, the many researchers here and in the Titanic Societies have been steadily uncovering the cases of assumed identities and overlooked individuals so there is less and less chance that anyone has been missed.

Examples include Senan Malony's info. about two Irish men, John Horgan and James Moran whose tickets and names were used by other men who actually boarded and perished, initially under those names before their true identities were discovered.

 

[AnjaElise]

I TOOK CARE OF A SURVIVOR IN A NURSING HOME IN SOUTHERN WISCONSIN--PLATTEVILLE TO BE EXACT NAMED JOHN McDermott --I don't see him on the survivor list--this was is 1971-1973---local newspaper articles supported this story--he had supposedly traveled to england with his doctor--the doctor had taken him there to get a glass eye as he had lost his in an accident--they were returning to the US on the Titanic--can anyone varify this?
the local newspaper in platteville wisconsin did a feature story on him and two women survivors while i lived there somewhere between 1971-1973--thanks

John was my grandfather. He was interviewed by local newspapers and I've recently learned he was included in the Readers Digest Titanic article.
Thank you so much for sharing this!

 

[Arun Vajpey]

He was interviewed by local newspapers

Could the local newspapers have 'helped' this gentleman to put forward this survivor story? I understand certain sections of the press were not above such scams in those days.

 

[Steven Christian]

Could the local newspapers have 'helped' this gentleman to put forward this survivor story? I understand certain sections of the press were not above such scams in those days.

Even worse today.

 

[Cam Houseman]

Even worse today.

Reminds me of the Story of Ellen Betty Phillips

 

[Steven Christian]

Reminds me of the Story of Ellen Betty Phillips

The math works out for her. DNA could have solved it. Cam I'm from a time when the women in town would look at marriage and birth dates. If you came in under 9 months you were almost shunned...LOL.

 

[Arun Vajpey]

I TOOK CARE OF A SURVIVOR IN A NURSING HOME IN SOUTHERN WISCONSIN--PLATTEVILLE TO BE EXACT NAMED JOHN McDermott --I don't see him on the survivor list--this was is 1971-1973

I would have thought that if a genuine Titanic survivor was still alive 60 years later, he/she would have been rather well known. I have not come across a John McDermott on any list related to the Titanic except this thread.

AFAIK, the only McDermott on board the Titanic was survivor Delia Bridget McDermott who supposedly almost missed her place in a lifeboat because she went back to her cabin to get her expensive hat. She had no siblings named John back home in Ireland.

Of course, there was Barbara McDermott who survived the sinking of the Lusitania.

 

[Cam Houseman]

The math works out for her. DNA could have solved it. Cam I'm from a time when the women in town would look at marriage and birth dates. If you came in under 9 months you were almost shunned...LOL.

I feel bad for her. If only her relatives had gotten the DNA tested.
you were almost shunned, huh? Reminds me of the story of how the Women in one lifeboat argued about useless things the entire time. What a great tine for that!

 

[Steven Christian]

I feel bad for her. If only her relatives had gotten the DNA tested.
you were almost shunned, huh? Reminds me of the story of how the Women in one lifeboat argued about useless things the entire time. What a great tine for that!

Me? No I was born almost 10 years after my parents were married. But I had to listen to some of the biddies during their weelky bridge game. Well out of 700+ survivors in the boats I guess it was certain some would b!~~~ over useless things. How true those stories are I'm not sure.