Senator SMITH. Do you know any of the men who assisted you in lowering that lifeboat?
Mr. LOWE. No, sir; I do not, by name. But there is a man here, and had he not been here I should not have known that I had ordered Mr. Ismay away from the boat.
Senator SMITH. Did you order Mr. Ismay away from the boat?
Mr. LOWE. I did, sir.
Senator SMITH. What did you say to him?
Mr. LOWE. This was on the starboard side. I don't know his name, but I know him by sight. He is a steward. He spoke to me on board the
Carpathia. He asked me if I knew what I had said to Mr. Ismay. I said, "I don't know Mr. Ismay. "Well," he said, "you used very, very strong language with him." I said, "Did I?" I said, "I can not help it if I did." He said, "Yes, you did," and he repeated the words. If you wish me to repeat them I will do so; if you do not, I will not.
Senator SMITH. I will first ask you this: What was the occasion for your using this harsh language to Mr. Ismay?
Mr. LOWE. The occasion for using the language I did was because Mr. Ismay was overanxious and he was getting a trifle excited. He said, "Lower away! Lower away! Lower away! Lower away!" I said - well, let it be -
Mr. ISMAY. Give us what you said.
Mr. LOWE. The chairman is examining me.
Senator SMITH. Mr. Ismay, you asked the witness to give the language?
Mr. ISMAY. I have no objection to his giving it, It was not very parliamentary.
Senator SMITH. If the language is inappropriate -
Mr. LOWE. There is only one word that might be so considered.
Mr. ISMAY. May I suggest that it be put on a piece of paper and given to you, Mr. Chairman, and you decide.
Senator SMITH. All right; write it down.
[The witness, Mr. Lowe, wrote something on a piece of paper and handed it to the chairman.]
Senator SMITH. You may put that into the record. You said you -
Mr. LOWE. You wish me to repeat it, sir?
Senator SMITH. You uttered this to Mr. Ismay?
Mr. LOWE. Yes; that was in the heat of the moment.
Senator SMITH. What was the occasion of it; because of his excitement, because of his anxiety?
Mr. LOWE. Because he was, in a way, interfering with my duties, and also, of course, he only did this because he was anxious to get the people away and also to help me.
Senator SMITH. What did you say to him?
Mr. LOWE. Do you want me to repeat that statement?
Senator SMITH. Yes, sir.
Mr. LOWE. I told him,
"If you will get to hell out of that I shall be able to do something." 
Senator SMITH. What reply did he make?
Mr. LOWE. He did not make any reply. I said, "Do you want me to lower away quickly?" I said, "You will have me drown the whole lot of them." I was on the floor myself lowering away.