I feel like I've been spamming these boards with inane questions lately, and if so, please tell me and I will make myself stop! In any case, I have questions about the water temperature on the night of April 14th. According to every reference I've encountered the water temperature was 28 degrees. This is what the temperature was calculated on Titanic (thus the fear of the fresh water freezing), but I'm curious about something. According to every source I've been able to find on hypothermia and water temperatures, a clothed individual in water below 32.5 degrees Fahrenheit should be unconscious in under 15 minutes, possibly dead, and certainly dead within no more than 45 minutes (the healthiest individuals). Yet Titanic survivors report hearing screams for more than an hour, and Lowe picked up a number of survivors from the water after these screams had "died down." Is it possible they were in error about the temperature of the water? Survivor reports could simply be a result of time distortion--or how our perception of time is altered in moments of high stress (the world stood still)--but there is the problem of the uniformity of recollections. This too can be explained by the fact that memory is a social and constructive process, and the business of coming to agreement about traumatic events by participants is a well known phenomena in cases of pstd, which believe it or not we all suffer from mildly every time we're in a car accident or in a highly stressful and unusual situation. Even with that though I still wonder about the water temperature. Surely at least one of the officers in the lifeboats had a watch, and was consulting it during and after Titanic's foundering (how else would we know the time the ship vanishes into the deep?) More importantly there is collapsible b. This overturned boat had many men who weren't even on it, but floating along side it hanging by a rope. This doesn't match my understanding of the relation of water temperature to hypothermia for two reasons. First, they float around and in this boat all night. While I understand these men were moving and working to keep their boat from sinking, those in the water, at least, would surely have died if the water was really 28 degrees. Yet only 3 die that night. Second there are those who were pulled from the water at some time well after the screaming has stopped and those on top of collapsible b. My understanding is that as little as 1 minute in water this cold will start the hypothermic process that should eventually lead to death if not treated immediately, e.g. wet cloths removed person moved to a warm area, given warm liquids and being given blankets (preferably thermal blankets). Yet of those on top of collapsible b, nearly all live, and of those pulled from the water--one of whom was drunk, which should have made him more likely to freeze to death than live--only 1 dies. So these men and women fall into 28 degree water, in most cases are submerged partially (and Lights totally) for a minimum of 5 minutes. Some possibly much longer (if we are to believe those in the boats close to an hour). Some stay submerged for a long period during the night. Those that don't are wet, should already be hypothermic and nearly unconscious and have to sit in their wet cloths in the cold air for hours before Carpathia comes around. Something, somewhere, seems wrong to me about the water temperature in relation to survivor reports.