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Jim Kalafus

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In case you ever wondered...
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...lien auction. SO, whoever initially owned the murals defaulted on the storage bill!
 

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Probably not. The Normandie's interiors were, shall we say, slightly passe when brand new in 1935, and with another 15 years on the odometer would have packed all the visual appeal of 1975 pink shag carpeting viewed in 1990. It is doubtful that anyone with a 20 X 50 wall and $117,000 to spend on artwork would have chosen that particular piece in 1950. The fact that the individual panels are now scattered about the US and Europe causes me to believe that after a 'no sale' at the auction they were broken up and sold as individual components.
 

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Has anybody ever tried to gather them back together? I mean, are more than one panel owned by a single party?
 

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There are 8 panels on display at Forbes collection 60 5th ave at 12th st Manhattan.When i first visited the Metropolitan Museum of art in 1993 the display in the cafeteria The Chariot of poseidon had 44 panels i think, with the rest in storage due to the height restriction.James Garner has one on his yacht or so i have read as do members of the Forbes family. In Jan 2007 i went to the great SSN day at the SSSP where the fine historian and collector Mario Pulice invited me to his apartment in NY were he has a number of Panels and SSN fittings.In the year 2005 John Crash Miottel invited Normandie(my daughter) and myself to view his collection in SanFan and he has quite a few panels himself.I have been told that the Historian/collector Mario Pulice a great man, is working on a catalogue to try and list all known panels throughout the world.Various books can be of help with clues such as Normandie her life and times by Harvey Ardman and also the 5 volume set by Les Streater, and of course Normandie JohnMG's fantastic book.
 

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SS Normandie Day?
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What does this entail? Sounds cool!

Sounds like there are a lot of different panels. Would the actual illustration have been divided/cut up in order to put it on panels? Or are the panels the original form they were in when they were on the Normandie? Was the 20 x 50-foot description what all the panels added up to when they were placed together?
 

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This was a day last January that was devoted to the SS Normandie where talks and films and slideshows were presented to the audience by Rory Mcevoy,John Miottel and Mario Pulice all three experts on the Normandie it was organised by OLS and held at the SSSP,R Faber jr and Der Scutt were organisers of this and the charming Bill Miller was the compere!I got news of this and as it was a one off i made my way across the atlantic, were i met some SSN fanatics like myself. Most individual panels are 49"1/4x30"1/4.
 

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from today's NY Times This Day in History column.

1942: The former French liner Normandie capsized in New York Harbor a day after it caught fire while being refitted for the U.S. Navy.
 
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