The Career of Will Turner

[Ren-Horng James Wang]

Hey all,

Just digging up some things on dear old Bowler Bill and I was wondering if anyone would be able to shed more light on these things.

Turner's second ship, the White Star. Is this the same White Star that became the namesake of the White Star Line? It seems to be running the same route that Australian gold-runners would.

Which ship did the bread and butter incident occur? I have a snagging suspicion that Will was trying to sneak food under his father's nose instead of any of the other captains under which he may have served.

When did Turner FIRST command the Lusitania? Hoehling mentions that he succeeded Jim Watt (what happened to him?) but does not give a date. As for the final voyage, was Dow supposed to be command for both the outbound and inbound voyages and Will Turner scheduled as a last minute replacement?

Just wondering.

Ren-Horng (James)

 

[Alex McLean]

I know he was on another Cunard ship, I think the Ivernia, which was torpedoed and sank with 50 lives (once again, Turner was saved). Check www.lusitania.net for more info on 'Bowler Bill'.
My best,
Alex

 

[Brian R Peterson]

I am also unsure of what happened to Turner after the Lusitania, but I do know from what I read that he was vilified similar to Ismay on the Titanic for not going down with his ship, I'm sure that had a big impact on his career.

Brian

 

[Adam Went]

Hey Everyone, yes, he did command atleast 1 other ship after the Disaster, but i can't think of the name right now. Turner died in 1933. He was 59 when the Lusy went down, so i guess he was about 77 when he died. Cheers.

 

[Eric Sauder]

The ship Turner took to sea after Lusitania was Ivernia, which was torpedoed off Cape Matapan, Greece, on January 1, 1917, with a loss of 36 lives. Turner later claimed under oath that Ivernia was zig-zagging and was still torpedoed.

After losing Ivernia, Turner never took another ship to sea, but Cunard did give him command of Mauretania while she was laid up in Liverpool during 1917. When Mauretania finally sailed
again, Turner was not in command.

Eric Sauder

 

[Laura Melinda Varjo]

Hey there ! I checked James Wang`s website out about the Lusitania, but did not find how much (in today`s money) did first, second, and third class tickets had cost. It`s a very neat website, cheers, Lorie

 

[Jesse D O'Neill]

Alex

www.lusitania.net

Im not too sure i would trust much of the material on that website, seems like most of it came from Colin Simpson's and Daniel Butler's book, the people running that site are trying to claim that the 2nd explosion was caused by Ammunition, something that has already been proved wrong from exploration of the wreck and the incredible Bailey & Ryan.

 

[Kalman Tanito]

I seem to remember that a book has been written about Will Turner's life that has just recently come out or is about to be published.

If my memory doesn't fail me and the book is not just a fiction of mine, has anyone else heard about it and does anyone know what its title might be?

Kalman

 

[Martin Owen Cahill]

the book exists and is called LUSITANIA AND BEYOND
Detail is available at Lusitania Online. Written by Mitch Peek this work is a biography on the life of Bowler bill.
happy hunting

Martin

 

[Jesse D O'Neill]

im not so sure about the book you just mentioned martin, there website is full of info which makes it seems like there on the conspiracy theory boat w/ simpson and daniel butler, though it is a biography, and i dont know of any other biography on turner, and it might contain some new info, so it should be interesting, though i question how reliable it is, though will probably end up reading it eventually, the only problem is its only available in the UK & Germany, maybe if the Lusitania story gets more popular itll get on the market here, i dont know though as the lusitania story doesnt seem to be doing very good w/ buyers.

 

[Jesse D O'Neill]

I Just got a copy of this hard to find book in the mail. Those Speaking German will probably have more luck finding the book as it was released in germany 03/04. I have not yet read the book, though will give a review when I do. I did however flip through the book a little to look at photos, the book is very well illustrated.

 

[Thorsten Totzke]

If someone look for the german Version of the book please take a look to www.LostLiners.de in our Bookshop we have all informations about the book with link to Amazon.de where you can order it.

Go to www.LostLiners.de and click on "Büchershop" ("Bookshop") then click on "Internationale Passagierschiffe" ("International Passengerships") and the first book in the list is the Turner book. There you can found all informations and by click on the amazon.de button you can order directly by amazon.de

I read the book at the moment and it is very good.

greetings from Hamburg in god old germany

Thorsten Totzke
www.LostLiners.de
www.OceanLiners.de

 

[Jesse D O'Neill]

Heres my Review of Lusitania and Beyond by Mitch Peeke and Kevin Walsh-Johnson.

The book itself is well written and easy to read, and very well illustrated, all illustrations by John Gray. While not quite as good as Ken's work, it is still very good. While not quite the most Accurate book, its accurracy can be considered better than others, Accuracy being 60%. I would highly recomend this book, and on a sliding scale of 1-10, I'll give the book a 7, which leaves me wondering why some people put the book on the shelf after a couple chapters.

 

[Colleen Collier]

If you rate the accuracy at only 60%, I can see why people would shy away from the book. Those unfamiliar with Lusitania's facts could not easily strain the correct from incorrect.

 

[Brian R Peterson]

Hi All

I can agree with Colleen here, inaccurate information is not only frustrating but also confusing.

Someone with little or no knowledge of the Lusitania can read the book and take it all as fact, thus becoming mis-informed. These same mistakes are what caused some of the better known fallacies of the Titanic story.

Best Regards,

Brian