The Old Cemetery Southampton

John Avery

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Friends of Southampton Old cemetery a group of conservation volunteers are currently attempting to care for 47 Titanic associated graves in Southampton Old cemetery. Mr Smither's memorial was wrecked by vandals and the stone now lies horizontally with a large break across it. Interestingly the date of the Titanic sinking is recorded as 14th April 1912 not the 15th.
Our volunteers take groups, passengers from liners and persons interested in the port's maritime history on guided walks around the cemetery. We are hoping to raise funds to mark some of the graves with a suitable plaque.
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John Avery

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There are 47 graves associated with the Titanic in the Old Cemetery by Southampton Common. There are more than 160 graves associated with shipwrecks, drownings, marine accidents etc. Many of the Titanic graves have been vandalised and our conservation group of volunteers are taking every step possible to try to keep the graves accessible. Many have bramble [blackberry thorns] encroaching and many dog owners permit their animals to use the cemetery as a lavatory.
FoSOC take people on guided walks and help relatives etc to locate family graves. It is hoped that we may be able to raise funds from donations received on our walks and through grave tidy up service etc to place marker plaques.
We always enjoy meeting fellow Titanic researchers.
 

John Avery

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A must for all Titanic visitors to the Southampton area is the Old Cemetery by The Common where there are 47 graves associated with the Titanic. Friends of Southampton Old Cemetery escort visitors around the overgrown and neglected site. FoSOC is hoping to initiate a system where plaques and markers can be placed to help visitors locate Titanic graves. Many graves have been smashed by vandals, citizens in many cases allow their dogs to foul graves in the cemetery and the growth of hogweed, bramble [blackberry thorns] makes the case even more urgent to try to save our heritage.
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Kyrila Scully

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I am planning to come to Europe, although the dates are sketchy at present. I definitely intend to visit Southampton. Thank you for the information.

Kyrila
 
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Hi John,

It really sickens me when vandals desecrate graves - it's not a religious thing as such, just that I think it's important that people can be allowed a lasting mark in the world. On the other hand, I find it heartening that people like yourselves take the time and effort to combat this sort of thing. I'll definitely drop in next time I'm down your end of the country.

All the best

Paul
 

John Avery

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Friends of Southampton Old Cemetery are currently consulting the cemetery owner Southampton City Council on the possibility of having some markers placed in the cemetery to assist visitors in locating graves. As a temporary measure as we clean up a site we hope to place blue pegs nearby. The fact that the graves are not grouped together but spread over the 27 acres and the enormous problem of bramble [some places 10 to 12 feet high] this will be a challenging task. We work under restrictions imposed by SCC ecologist and clearance is restricted in quantity and also time restrictions such as bird nesting periods. We see the working cemetery [there are still a few burials each year] as needing a balance between the needs of ecology and the social history and heritage of Southampton plus the right of relatives to visit graves with access and safety being paramount. The ecologist takes the view that a photograph of a grave should be an appropriate alternative.
Through our efforts we have in 2005 helped more than 80 families to locate their graves and have given more than 1000 hours of voluntary labour.
We will continue to attempt to keep Titanic graves accessible to all.
 

John Avery

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Friends of Southampton Old Cemetery are pleased to record that the grave of Herbert Christmas which had sank downward into the soil has now been cleared and it is possible to read the inscription once more
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John Avery

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John Avery and John Dunkason engaged on a clean up exercise of the grave of Titanic survivor Herbert Ross who died in 1940.[Friends of Southampton Old Cemetery]

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John Avery

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The smashed grave of Parsons. Volunteers John Dunkason and Gillie Blake spent considerable effort in locating the smashed pieces and reassembling back on its location. The stone now lays horizontally instead of its original upright position. Many other graves have been vandalised and Friends of Southampton Old Cemetery face a major problem in try to care for the Titanic graves.

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John Avery

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The memorial to Henry Hodges a passenger lost on the Titanic. The grave has deteriorated through weather and algae from adjoining damp wooded area but fortunately has not been vandalised. Friends of Southampton Old Cemetery regularly feature the grave on their Shipwrecks and Maritime Graves walk and on the Titanic Graves walk.
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Inger Sheil

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Hallo John - I'm very pleased to see that work has been done on restoration. They certainly look better than when I was there last. It's an ongoing battle to save such sites from both the natural process of deterioration, even without the careless destructiveness of vandals.
 

John Avery

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We are taking visitors on a guided walk to search out Titanic graves at Southampton Old Cemetery at 7pm on 24th August 2005. The meeting place is by the main gates next to the lodge in Cemetery Road, off Northlands Road, Southampton SO15 7NN.
Shortly we hope to start placing blue marker pegs to help people to trace the graves more easily.
John Avery
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Its good to see that someone cares and is doing something about this. It seems that the locals would be also take part in the restoration and up keep of the cemetery since it has such a huge connection to Titanic. After all, Halifax became a popular destination mainly due to the cemeteries there that has all the Titanic victims. The grave sites have all been kept up vey well there and those buried there have not been forgotten.
 

John Avery

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Friends of Southampton Old Cemetery placed blue wooden pegs next to the Titanic graves to assist visitors in locating them. We deliberately did not mark them with a name etc to stop souvenir hunters. Sadly within 72 hours all the stakes had been removed. We will try again!
 
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Hi my name is Jude and I am from Australia. I was in London 2003/2004 and am managed to locate quite a few of the graves at the old common cemetery in Southampton. I am now working in the UK again and was wondering if anyone has a map of Hollybrook or South Stoneham cemeteries as I would like to locate some of the graves that are there.
 

Ernie Luck

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Hello Judith

It might be worth having a word with the relevant cemetaries via Southampton Council.

Some have very sophisticated records but others leave you to your own devices.

I know records at Southampton's St. Marys Extra are computerised and when my wife telephoned a couple of years ago they were incredible helpful. The guy on the end of the phone went through a list of every 'Luck' buried there and gave very precise instructions where my grandfather was buried.
 
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Andrew Williams

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Greetings Judith!

Cemetary maps - A year ago I was asking the same-self question.

Whilst some of them do survive, the reason for not allowing any sort of 'photocopying' is down to the age as well as the size of each map. Some of the maps are nearly a hundred years old and are in a very fragile state of affairs.

Understandably, I was given a polite 'no' although I have been told there are future plans to start mapping out all the various cemetaries around the Southampton area.

Hope that helps in answering your question.

A.W.
 

Louise Anne

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I am hoping to locate memorial graves and graves of the passengers of the Titanic but I am not sure where to locate them, I believe they are located in the Southampton Old Cemetery near Hill Lane in Southampton. Any help would be much appreciated

Louise Anne
 

Louise Anne

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I recently visited the Southampton Old Cemetery and I couldn't locate any of the Titanic Grave sites although there was a leaflet saying that the graves were marked with a blue peg. As there are over 16,000 graves there, I had no luck. Is there anyone who could suggest any help that would be much appreciated

L.A