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There is a new (Chinese made?) feature length TV documentary named The Six that has already been released in China. It is about the Chinese passengers on board the Titanic. Ratings on IMDB appear to be good.

Anyone know if this is likely to be available on Western TV channels?
 
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There was an interesting press article a few weeks ago about it.

They dug up a lot of previously unknown information (and photographs) about the Chinese aboard the Titanic. Which just goes to show that there is still previously unknown stuff out there to be discovered about the passengers and crew even if big new discoveries about the ship itself are unlikely.

Fang Lang lived a very long life but never told his family much about the disaster. What a story he could have told if anyone had tried to track him down whilst he was alive.

I just hope there isn't any rubbish about locked bostwick gates, evil stewards or Harold Lowe being a racist.
 
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Ijust hope there isn't any rubbish about locked bostwick gates, evil stewards or Harold Lowe being a racist.
There probably won't be any direct quotes, but I would not be surprised if there are subtle hints of racism. After all, that did exist to some extent in those days, not just toward non-Caucasians, but other White people of Southern Europe. Not all the quoted disdainful remarks about "crazed Italians" etc were likely to have been exaggerated.

I would be interested to know how other people in Third Class treated the Chinese fellow passengers. Elizabeth Dowdell, nanny to Virginia Martin Emanuel, is supposed to have complained about sitting close to Chinamen on board the Carpathia.
 

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There probably won't be any direct quotes, but I would not be surprised if there are subtle hints of racism. After all, that did exist to some extent in those days, not just toward non-Caucasians, but other White people of Southern Europe. Not all the quoted disdainful remarks about "crazed Italians" etc were likely to have been exaggerated.

I would be interested to know how other people in Third Class treated the Chinese fellow passengers. Elizabeth Dowdell, nanny to Virginia Martin Emanuel, is supposed to have complained about sitting close to Chinamen on board the Carpathia.
The reason I brought up the racism angle was that several years ago there was a newspaper article published about the Chinese aboard the Titanic.

In this article Harold Lowe was branded a cruel, callous racist by the ignorant author of the piece who used as her only source Charlotte Collyer's ridiculously melodramatic, partly invented account. Basically the author charged Lowe with not wanting to save Fang Lang's life because of his skin colour.

Inger Shiel wrote a detailed rebuttal in which she pointed out Lowe in his correspondence actually had a great regard for the Chinese and admired them as seamen.

She sent it to the journalist in question but I don't think she ever got a reply nor was the article ever corrected.

It was a disgraceful slur on a good man.
 
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There is a new (Chinese made?) feature length TV documentary named The Six that has already been released in China. It is about the Chinese passengers on board the Titanic. Ratings on IMDB appear to be good.

Anyone know if this is likely to be available on Western TV channels?
Their website says it will be coming out soon internationally but they haven't given a date yet.
 
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There is a new (Chinese made?) feature length TV documentary named The Six that has already been released in China. It is about the Chinese passengers on board the Titanic. Ratings on IMDB appear to be good.

Anyone know if this is likely to be available on Western TV channels?
I went and read the reviews too and I watched the trailer. It looks like it will be an interesting documentary and I will watch. But from the trailer it looks like the racist angle will be covered a lot so if that bothers someone be prepared. But I don't see how they could not cover that. That's the way it was in those days. Especially a little earlier. The chinese workers that built the railroads in the west were treated pretty badly in many cases. Probably by 1912 not much different. Anyway I'm looking forward to seeing it. Thanks for the heads up.
 

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That's the way it was in those days. Especially a little earlier. The Chinese workers that built the railroads in the west were treated pretty badly in many cases
That kind of general attitude towards the Orientals in general and the Chinese in particular was quite common in those days. Now that the boot is steadily moving to the other foot, I wonder if some of us can justify the criticism that we come out with these days.

When you read about or look at older films depicting the way the Westerners treated the Chinese and more importantly, the stoic manner in which the latter appeared to be able to absorb such discrimination makes me think that there was an unsaid feeling "Patience, our day will come".
 
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That kind of general attitude towards the Orientals in general and the Chinese in particular was quite common in those days. Now that the boot is steadily moving to the other foot, I wonder if some of us can justify the criticism that we come out with these days.

When you read about or look at older films depicting the way the Westerners treated the Chinese and more importantly, the stoic manner in which the latter appeared to be able to absorb such discrimination makes me think that there was an unsaid feeling "Patience, our day will come".
Yes. No doubt they were exploited. That's a part of history. But what the Orientals did to each other makes the west look like amateurs. Everybody seems to forget that part of history nowadays. But back to the documentary. It's part of the story so they need to cover it. I just hope they do a good job on it and not just go for the ticket sales. It will be good to see something new on the Titanic story other than all the rehash. Cheers.
 

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What I do hope with this documentary is that the events are shown in the right perspective ie that of those 6 Chinese passengers but not as they were understood (or not) at the time but as we understand them now. In other words, we probably have a somewhat better understanding now of how an Oriental person might have felt in an atmosphere such as the one that prevailed on board the Titanic, both during the voyage and after the collision. For example, were they completely ignored by other passengers - not even a nodded greeting etc? How did the crew treat them? Did they sit separately by themselves during meals and if so was it a cause or an effect of their alienation?

Even without knowing the sequence of events, I sometimes feel that the Chinese passengers by and large were alienated to the extent that they might have felt that they needed to look after themselves when the crunch came, even it it meant sneaking into lifeboats. With hindsight, I really cannot see how they can be blamed.
 

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