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Message: [QUOTE="Arun Vajpey, post: 378818, member: 146608"] I have always wondered about this "Going down like gentlemen" story. AFAIK, Etches was the one and only on-board source and might it be that the steward was merely paying his personal homage to the memory of a man (who was in all probability 'kind' to him during the journey) by a bit of embellishment? Guggenheim was known to be bit of a playboy and it seems out of character for him to remove his safety jacket and change into a tuxedo simply to drown 'like a gentleman'. IMO, it would be even more out of character for 24 year old Victor Giglio to do the same, when he still had so much life to look forward to. Frankly, Etches' story sounds a bit melodramatic to me [/QUOTE]