The "SPLIT" Physics

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Jamie Bryant

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Hi All,
I'm currently researching into my AS Physics Coursework about steel, so in my 20min presentation i thought that I could do several case studies (i'm already examining the collapse of the WTC) and what better than the break-up of Titanic. So i was wondering if anyone had the physical spec, such as the pressure at the time of break-up, tensile strength, young's modulus, the breakdown of Titanic's steel etc. Any info would be fantastic.
 
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monica e. hall

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Hello Jamie,
This seems a fairly ambitious project for AS level Physics - but never mind! There is a gentleman here on the Board called Samuel Halpern, who seems rather better up in this sort of thing than most of us. You can do a search for him by author and then email him - he would probably be interested, though I cannot speak for him of course. You're in the right folder - have you looked at "The Events During the Sinking & Subsequent Forensics" sub-folder? In fact, that is where I am moving your thread, to try to get a better response for you.
 
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monica e. hall

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Jamie,
I've just noticed you have 20 minutes for your presentation. As a tutor myself, I do think you should confine yourself to just one example in such a short time ... just a bit of advice. You certainly cannot 'do' several case studies...
 
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Jamie Bryant

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I'll probably do the one which i have more info for, and at the moment it looks like the WTC, as there was an excellent 2hr documentary on Discovery which i taped dedicated to why it collapsed. I suppose that's also a bit more 'fresher' in people's minds, but i'll still look at this option. Thanks very much for the help.

Jamie Bryant
 
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Erik Wood

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I realize I am VERY late but if Jaime is still around I too can offer some information off of the forum.
 
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Mark Draper

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I've been curious about how the hull snapped in two in Roy Mengot's sequence. How would it have looked seeing the ship break apart like that instead of what is shown in Cameron's movie?

Good luck on the project
Happy
 
Michael H. Standart

Michael H. Standart

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I don't know if anyone would have been able to see much of anything as it was dark out there in ways that people with no experience at sea can scarcely imagine. I suppose if anyone could have seen anything well enough, it would have looked a lot like the midsection collapsing in on itself.
 
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Mark Draper

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My best guess is it would resemble Ken's painting of the breakup.

I hope the new Discovery Channel documentary this summer with Cameron will for once show a visual version of the breakup Roy Mengot came up with.
 
Michael H. Standart

Michael H. Standart

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Does Discovery even know that Roy's visual even exists? I would hope so.
 
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Mark Draper

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I don't know. I was hoping when GOTA came out in IMAX we'd see Roy's version of the breakup given the new evidence from the 1998 expedition to prove his theory correct.

He emailed me recently saying he's still working on his sources to get a seat for this expedition.
 
Michael H. Standart

Michael H. Standart

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I hope Roy get's that seat. I've met the man and can vouchsafe that he's a top notch researcher and engineer.
 
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Mark Draper

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I know he'd be perfect to go given how much information he's given me on the wreck, and how certain areas got damaged in the sinking. His site alone should prove he should go.

I also say a major thanks to him as well for making that wreck model. I've tried building my own just using Ken's artwork as my guide, but after seeing Roy's model, I got alot better at scratchbuilding. I'm currently building a 2004 version of the wreck.

I even suggested to Roy when he goes, that he brings back alot of photos to share
Happy
I also hope there will be a few mosaics of the sides of the ship, like the Officer's Quarters, a whole lot of places
Happy
 
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