The Titanic Break-Up Discussion

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Prior to September 1985 if you had read a book or an article about the sinking of the Titanic it would often say that the ship sank intact. The discovery of the shipwreck changed all of that...... Read the article Titanica! Fri, 15 Apr 2022
 
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Arun Vajpey

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It is probably true that 17 year-old Jack Thayer was one of the first survivors who mentioned that the Titanic broke-up towards the end of its final plunge. I learned recently that those famous drawings attributed to him - which have appeared in several magazines and books - were actually not drawn by him but by a passenger on board the rescue ship Carpathia named Lewis Skidmore based on Jack's description of the final moments.
 
Vincent Brannigan

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Wonderful piece . In 1972 I was writing my undergraduate theseis on submarine warfare. I was comparing the Lusitania and Titanic inquiries sice they were both run by Lord Mersey I was well aware of the discrepancy in testimony bwteeen lay and expert witnesses on the break up. I also noted where lord Mersey firmly put his thumb on the scale while Wilding was testifying

20261. And to a certain extent is every deck?
- It is a member of the girder.
The Commissioner:
The evidence about this breaking of the ship in two immediately before she founders and the righting of the afterend is unsatisfactory.


Mr. Rowlatt:
Very well, My Lord, then I will not examine in detail upon it.

The Witness:
It might perhaps interest my Lord to know the rough calculation I was able to make as to the probable stress arising when the ship foundered as she got her stern out of the water. I can only do it very roughly, of course. It showed the stress in the ship was probably not greater than she would encounter in a severe Atlantic storm. The ship was made to go through an Atlantic storm, and therefore would be capable of meeting that stress.

To me this was unbelievable but the intent was clear Cover up any possible failure in British shipbuilding

The ship may have been designed to go through a storm. but that did not prove it could do it. As we know it could not meet the stress in 28F water. . So WIlding who was a very talented engineer either made a tremendous mistake or lied through his teeth.

No tests were made of the steel at low temperature
As the phrase goes you don't see it until you believe it. Instead of the TITANIC disaster sparking a thorough scientific inquiry into ship builidng practice, it was used to cover up any potential failure
 
Wolfric Kintobor

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Prior to September 1985 if you had read a book or an article about the sinking of the Titanic it would often say that the ship sank intact. The discovery of the shipwreck changed all of that...... Read the article Titanica! Fri, 15 Apr 2022
This will be extremely useful for my survivor account compilation and analysis!
Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
 
Dr. Wacky

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one more thing to think on. could the stern have pulled the bow out of the water? maybe by a few feet?
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