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The wreck....then and now

Discussion in 'The Decaying of the Wreck' started by Arun Vajpey, May 15, 2018.

  1. Arun Vajpey

    Arun Vajpey Member

    OK. The wreck of the Titanic was discovered more than 73 years after the ship sank, Then it has been 32+ years since then. Based on reports by various expeditions, how much worse is the deterioration of the wreck? Has there been a lot of obvious decay between 1985 and the present day?
  2. Kyle Naber

    Kyle Naber Member

    Absolutely. The broken decks have collapsed further, the crows nest has broken from the mast, and the overall girth of the structure has been eaten away. That’s the sad thing about exponential decay. Is happens faster and faster every day.
  3. Aaron_2016

    Aaron_2016 Member

    They compared photos from 1987 and 2012 and found damage all over the wreck. I believe Dr. Ballard was featured in a documentary around that time and he believed the submersibles were landing on the wreck with such force that parts of it collapsed.

    Before and after.


  4. Rob Lawes

    Rob Lawes Member

    I find it incredible that even after all these years the Titanic's swimming pool is still full.
  5. Harland Duzen

    Harland Duzen Member

    it makes you wonder how long Olympic might have lasted if she had been left to rot like the SS United States (which for the latter won't be continuing for too much longer... ;)). Ironically Titanic has probably lasted longer than had she been scrapped in the 30's.

    Oh dear... I see what you did there.
  6. The Battleship USS Texas (BB-35) , as a museum ship, which had just been "sitting and rotting" over the years , and had to undergo a lot of repairs to the damages.
  7. Aaron_2016

    Aaron_2016 Member

    Glad the Olympic was spared the disgrace of rusting away and covered with graffiti like the old Duke of Lancaster.


  8. You would think that in certain markets where real estate is at a high premium like NYC, Hong Kong, Tokyo, San Fran..ect that some of these liners could be docked and turned into hotel spaces. I don't think it would be all that difficult especially if you could get them before they were neglected.
  9. Although I think the cost was rather high in the case of the Queen Mary at Long Beach.
    And upkeep and repairs have been a continuous problem with the Battleship Texas.
    So I am not so sure if it wouldn't be very difficult and very expensive for most of those abandoned liners.
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  10. Aaron_2016

    Aaron_2016 Member

    It might be too expensive to restore the ship into something that would offer investors a long-term profit. I hope the QE2 does not end up rusting away the same way the SS United States did.

    As far as I can recall all of these ships were scrapped between 2000 - 2017 after decades of service and perhaps untold history.


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  11. Yes valid points you state. But I'm only taking markets where real estate is crazy high...almost insane. $5 billion for new Amazon headquarters building in Seattle alone.
  12. So many fine ships. I was watching the Titanic Channel last night about the Queen Mary in Long Beach. It stated that she was the last riveted liner to survive. Is that true?
  13. I've read estimates that by 2030-2035 she will be pretty much just be a pile of rust. The more iron the bugs eat the more they expose. Positive feedback loop.
  14. Aaron_2016

    Aaron_2016 Member

    I think she would be the last riveted 'ocean liner' to survive, although I'm sure there are plenty of coastal and river boats that were riveted and still survive today, but nothing on the scale of the giant Queen Mary.

    I recall the salvage rights to secure the wreck were in jeopardy and this meant that private companies could go down and intentionally destroy the wreck or bang into it repeatedly and use cables to pull down walls and accelerate its collapse, and this would mean the restrictions that forbid all items inside the ship from being salvaged would become void as the structure would have collapsed and exposed her contents to the salvagers outside. Like breaking open the drawbridge and storming the castle. Without witnesses they could simply blame the collapse as a natural occurrance. Wish someone could drop a live webcamera down there so that her condition could be monitored 24/7.

    News story about potential Titanic salvagers.

    Fears Titanic wreck could be pillaged after salvage company falls into bankruptcy

    Using steel cables to pull down the structure to see inside.



    Last edited: May 16, 2018