Third Class Cabins on FDeck

[Daniel Odysseus]

I'm writing a fiction novel about Titanic, and one of my characters is in steerage, in F-46... I was looking at the Deckplans, but the numbering doesn't go past E Deck...

Can anyone tell me where on the ship F-46 was located? I think it was in the bow, but...

 

[Michael H. Standart]

According to the deck plans in Eaton & Hass "Titanic, Triumph And Tragedy", dead on the centreline on the opposite side of the bulkhead "C" behind the Number Two cargo hatch.

Cordially,
Michael H. Standart

 

[Lester Mitcham]

Daniel,

You ask about stateroom number F-46. F-46 should have been a 2nd Class stateroom, located near the port-side Number 4 Hatch on F-deck, aft; just forward of a 3rd Class stairway that connected decks E, F and G; but in Eaton and Hass' deck plans there is no Room Number F-46. The numbers jump from F-44 to F-50; with no rooms numbers F-46 or F-48.

In 1st and 2nd Class and with a number of rooms on G-deck which were interchangeable between 2nd and 3rd Class; the Cabin Class system of Deck Number and Room Number was followed; but otherwise in 3rd Class the rule was Section Number followed by a Room Number. From Eaton and Haas:

Rooms 1-19 [excluding 13, a number which was not used]; were in Section B at the forward end of E-deck. Rooms 19-103 were in Sections C, E and G at the forward end of F-deck. Rooms 104-126 and 138-167 were in Sections M and Q at the after end of E-deck. Rooms 127-137, Section O, D-deck aft. Rooms 168-202 were in Section R, F-deck aft. Rooms 203-221, Setion S, G-deck aft. Rooms 224-260 [numbers 222 and 223 were omitted], were in Sections F and D, G-deck forward.
Cabins G-1 to G-40; being the rooms which could be used as 2nd Class were in Section N; G-deck aft; located forward of rooms 203-221.

Michael has noted the location of Room Number 46 for you. It was in Section E. Looking at the Cabin Allocations it would seem that the room was occupied by Mr Sarkis Mardirosian and 3 others. Sarkis Mardirosian's file states that he was in E-46. This is incorrrect. E-46 was a 1st Class stateroom occupied by Messrs Hilliard and McCarthy. Sarkis could be said to have been in room 46, Section E; but not in E-46 or F-46.

I hope that helps,
Lester

 

[Daniel Odysseus]

Hmm... Complicated... Thanks for all of your help, everyone... I'll look into it.

 

[Daniel Odysseus]

Whoops, forgot one more thing... If F46 wasn't third, then what WERE some third class cabins in the bow? I looked at the deckplans on this site, and E Deck has none, and G Deck just has open berths...

 

[Lester Mitcham]

Daniel,

You say: you looked at the deckplans on this site, and E Deck has none. If you look again you will see room numbers 1 to 19. These are the 3rd Class rooms that I advised as being in section B. On Titanic G-deck did not have open berths. That was on Olympic. So the deck plans on this site are wrong for that section of G-deck.

Except for a small group of rooms aft on G-deck which were interchangeable with 2nd Class no 3rd Class rooms had deck numbers. They had section numbers. So the room you mention was room 46, in section E.

I overlooked that E&H has room 19 listed on both E and F-decks. It was on E-deck. But to answer your question about room numbers in the bow as I noted:
E-deck forward - Section B; Rooms 1-19 [excluding 13, a number which was not used]; E&H also list a room 9A.
F-deck forward - Sections C, E and G; Rooms 20-103.
G-deck forward - Sections F and D; Rooms 224-260.

Quoting E&H: each passenger's ticket was stamped with the section letter.

I hope that this helps make it clearer for you,
Lester

 

[Lester Mitcham]

Daniel,

I have now discovered that rooms 101 to 103 were aft; located just forward of section M; at least that is where they feature on E&H's deck plans.

Lester

 

[Christian J Cody]

Lester is correct. I found some deckplans fro the Titanic Modeling Association and have discovered that those three cabins were actually an entire section, given the letter "K"

 

[Edinlake]

I have known for quite some time that third class used designated letter sections as opposed to the deck itself, but I am not quite sure as to why? One would think that with only one interpreter in all of third class and few to no stewards designated to guide them, would this not just add to the confusion?