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serena
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Does anyone know what became of the wife and daughter of Thomas Andrews after the Titanic disaster ?
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Phillip Gowan
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Mrs. Andrews married Henry Peirson Harland (of the Harland/Wolff family) and died August 22, 1966 in Northern Ireland at the age of 85. Elizabeth Law Barbour Andrews, the daughter, never married and died in a traffic accident on November 1, 1973 in Ireland. There are no living descendants of Thomas Andrews. His wife and her second husband did have 4 children of their own and there are living descendants of those children.
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Jan C. Nielsen
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Do anyone know what became of Thomas Andrews' architect colleague at Harland & Wolff, Edward Wilding? He traveled from Belfast to Southampton on Titanic, but then, apparently did not continue with the voyage. After Titanic sank and Wilding testified at the British Board of Trade hearings, H&W's chairman, Lord Pirrie, summarily fired him. Pirrie gave Wilding only one hour to pack his things and get off H&W's premises. Allegedly, Pirrie held Wilding responsible for the Titanic disaster, including the death of his beloved nephew, Andrews. Did that end Wilding's career as a naval architect? Others, like Captain Stanley Lord, were fired, but managed to re-establish themselves in their respective fields of endeavor, and have successful careers.
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serena
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Phililip,where do you have this information from ?
Phillip Gowan
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I have Helen's death certificate, obituary, and will from Northern Ireland. I got the details on the daughter from my friend Senan Molony, a fellow researcher in Dublin.
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serena
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Is it possible to get this certificate and the will ?
Phillip Gowan
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I've given copies to this website--keep an eye out and they should show up before long under Thomas Andrews' biography.
Encyclopedia Titanica
Philip Hind
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I'll do it ASAP.
All I need is a nudge now and then
Phil
All I need is a nudge now and then
Phil
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Stacy McClure
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Speaking of the family of Thomas Andrews....
I know that his older brother was the wartime Prime Minister of Northern Ireland, and his younger brother was Lord Chancellor ( I think that's the right title ) and that his sister was married to a man named Hind.... but I have no idea what her name was.
My copy of Bullock's biography hasn't arrived yet, so I'm at a loss on this one.
(It is interesting too, that Andrews' niece Edith was the first woman senator in Northern Ireland )
I know that his older brother was the wartime Prime Minister of Northern Ireland, and his younger brother was Lord Chancellor ( I think that's the right title ) and that his sister was married to a man named Hind.... but I have no idea what her name was.
My copy of Bullock's biography hasn't arrived yet, so I'm at a loss on this one.
(It is interesting too, that Andrews' niece Edith was the first woman senator in Northern Ireland )
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serena
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Is it true that Elizabeth Andrews went to Kenya ?
Phillip Gowan
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Yes.
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Stacy McClure
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Ran some kind of 'no kill' safaris, didn't she?
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serena
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Have you any idea how long she stayed there ?
Dave Gittins
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I'm afraid Joe's wrong about Wilding's sacking. It's an old fiction that he was sacked soon after the sinking. Actually he was "stood down due to ill health" in 1923 for reasons that had nothing to do with Titanic.
Pirrie dumped him because he had lost money for H & W. It was really Pirrie's fault because he had not informed Wilding of the terms under which certain ships were built. The financial story of H & W is not a pretty one. When Pirrie died he was broke and his properties were sold. Friends set up a fund to support his widow.
It's also not true that Wilding was given an hour to leave H & W. The dirty deed was done in London. When Wilding's desk in Belfast was searched any incriminating evidence was gone. Wilding had guessed what Pirrie was up to when he called him to London.
Pirrie dumped him because he had lost money for H & W. It was really Pirrie's fault because he had not informed Wilding of the terms under which certain ships were built. The financial story of H & W is not a pretty one. When Pirrie died he was broke and his properties were sold. Friends set up a fund to support his widow.
It's also not true that Wilding was given an hour to leave H & W. The dirty deed was done in London. When Wilding's desk in Belfast was searched any incriminating evidence was gone. Wilding had guessed what Pirrie was up to when he called him to London.
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serena
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I think Wilding took over Thomas Andrews' job in Harland and Wolff.Is that right ?
