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Timothy Brandsoy
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Parks,
I was thinking on the same lines when reading the "What Film Makers Got Right" thread. Movie goers tend to embrace a new film eagerly or in Titanic's case, passionately, at first. Then in direct proportions to the films success, the self appointed critical critics will throw their hatchets at it. It's nothing new, every blockbuster has it's equally impassioned cynics. Some people just hate success!
I remember that initially Cameron's Titanic got great reviews from virtually every professional critic around the world. I appreciated the story for what it was: Romeo and Juliet. (Thanks Ing for pointing out the J&R reversal, I read here somewhere that at one time Rose was to have been 3rd class and Jack was 1st class, too true to Shakespeare perhaps?)
One point all of us need to think about was the need to make it work. Many of the people on Titanic would have required a lot of depth before and after Titanic. "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" for instance, it was a story about her (only somewhat true) and very little about or on Titanic. But with Jack and Rose's ordeal it was primarily on Titanic. They met there, they fell in love. It sinks, he dies. A tidy convention! A bit of fiction, based on Shakespeare on a real tragic ship. Still a great concept to me.
I think the consensus will eventually come back around. "Gone With The Wind" had just as many critics and some of the same criticisms: too modern dialogue, styles, etc. Although the critics reappear from time to time for different issues, GWTW is a revered classic.
Parks, BTW does Cameron pay any attention to these critics? Like Ricky Nelson said of his critics in "Garden Party" you can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself! ANTR has just as many, if not more, inconsistencies. I don't think there was a nursery on board with a rocking horse!
PS to Rachael, I don't see where I was rude to you. I was the third person to welcome you here. If you think I was talking 'down' to you to by saying: "Have a good look around this site. It will take a loooooong time to read everything here!" I've been here over a year and am still learning.
"And there's no need to be so rude."
"Good to see there's at least two nice people around here."
"Goodbye. I won't be posting here again."
Respect is a two way street.
Tim B
I was thinking on the same lines when reading the "What Film Makers Got Right" thread. Movie goers tend to embrace a new film eagerly or in Titanic's case, passionately, at first. Then in direct proportions to the films success, the self appointed critical critics will throw their hatchets at it. It's nothing new, every blockbuster has it's equally impassioned cynics. Some people just hate success!
I remember that initially Cameron's Titanic got great reviews from virtually every professional critic around the world. I appreciated the story for what it was: Romeo and Juliet. (Thanks Ing for pointing out the J&R reversal, I read here somewhere that at one time Rose was to have been 3rd class and Jack was 1st class, too true to Shakespeare perhaps?)
One point all of us need to think about was the need to make it work. Many of the people on Titanic would have required a lot of depth before and after Titanic. "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" for instance, it was a story about her (only somewhat true) and very little about or on Titanic. But with Jack and Rose's ordeal it was primarily on Titanic. They met there, they fell in love. It sinks, he dies. A tidy convention! A bit of fiction, based on Shakespeare on a real tragic ship. Still a great concept to me.
I think the consensus will eventually come back around. "Gone With The Wind" had just as many critics and some of the same criticisms: too modern dialogue, styles, etc. Although the critics reappear from time to time for different issues, GWTW is a revered classic.
Parks, BTW does Cameron pay any attention to these critics? Like Ricky Nelson said of his critics in "Garden Party" you can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself! ANTR has just as many, if not more, inconsistencies. I don't think there was a nursery on board with a rocking horse!
PS to Rachael, I don't see where I was rude to you. I was the third person to welcome you here. If you think I was talking 'down' to you to by saying: "Have a good look around this site. It will take a loooooong time to read everything here!" I've been here over a year and am still learning.
"And there's no need to be so rude."
"Good to see there's at least two nice people around here."
"Goodbye. I won't be posting here again."
Respect is a two way street.
Tim B
