Titanic 2 hear this one out


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Chris Nicholson

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Wev all heard the bull in popular mechanics a few years ago about that Titanic 2. The reason that won't work is cause its a working ship that would cost close to if not more 1 billion to build. What if something static could be built with only some of the interiors completely fitted. Just the major recognizable parts. The whole structure could be attached to the ground lke a normal building with power and plumbing being supplied from an offsite source. All the major machinary like the boilers and the engines would just be cheap moc-ups for show. All the rivits and plating could just be simulations. Im not sure if the details are the same, but something like cameron's model that he used in hte film. it could just be something where you and your family could pay 20 bucks to tour. Possibly housed in a theme park. Im not sure if this has been brought up before, but it would certainly be cheaper than building a working ship.
 

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I am sure there are many Titanic enthusiasts and researchers who would relish the opportunity to walk through and examine a replica of the ship they can only tour through black and white photographs or via Hollywood recreations on the screen.

I also don't think too highly of creating something with the Titanic label for entertainment/theme park purposes. For historical purposes, yes, but to draw the crowds to pay for the project, you need to cross the line into "fun!, attraction!, entertainment!, come one, come all!" I thought the recent inflatable Titanic slide at theme parks across the globe smacked of tastelessness. It's, to me, taking a disaster and turning it into something lighthearted and 'fun'. It's been 92 years so we're sort of removed from it emotionally as a generation. What's next? A World Trade Center jungle gym, or an launch and explode your space shuttle model kit?

As far as creating a replica worthy of comparison to Titanic, that's another concern. Take a look on eBay - there are no shortage of models that people claim are 'exact replicas' and 'recreations based on photos and plans'. Most of the public's idea of "replica" falls upon quite a thick and gray line. Even if such a project could and would be constructed (if funds could be secured for such a project), undoubtedly corners would be cut here and there "just to get it done" and compromise undercuts the foundation purpose of 'replica'.

Many variations of such a project have been proposed over the years, especially since 1997, but once practicality walks in the door, emotion-fueled, bandwagon-style wishful thinking jump out the window.

Would it be nice if a partial replica could be built? Sure. Will it happen? Wouldn't bet a case of candy bars on it.
 
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Could it be done? Absolutely. Just walk Las Vegas Blvd and see recreations of Paris and Venice. These are multi-billion dollar hotels. To build a hotel that is a duplicate of the Titanic would be far easier than one that sailed. This would avoid complying with current safety requirements that would clutter the boat decks with of all things, boats!

The Queen Mary hotel has proven that a luxury liner can serve as an attraction that offers not only accomodations, but restaraunts and also serves as a convention center.

My vision of a reprduction goes a bit further. Picture this: Build al three. The Olympic, Titanic and Britanic! Have them built as hotels but set side by side as if they were pulled up to port in New York Harbor. Shallow water surrounding them as if tied up to the piers. Much like people driving thru NewYork could see the Normandi, Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth sitting in a row back in WWII. Imagine walking down Las Vegas Boulevard and seeing the Olympic class trio "In Port" together! I'd even paint the Britanic in Hospital colors, maybe the Olympic in WWI dazzle paint. Hmmm

It can be done tastefully. Make one of the three a museum for tours, one for a hotel and the third a university? Encyclopedia Titanica University? The big question is : would there be enough revenue coming in to support it? These Billion dollar hotels are kept running by slot machine profits. Sad to say, but the third ship would probably have to be a Casino. Then they'd have rockets being shot off from the bridge after dark every 15 minutes to attract attention, maybe life boat launching recreations and the like.

Let's call Donald Trump with the concept!
 
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>>The big question is : would there be enough revenue coming in to support it? <<

Probably not. The Queen Mary to my understanding came very close to ending up in the breaker's yard because the enterprise was losing money and the material condition of the ship was in some serious decline. This is just with one ship in an area where there was a very large market to draw from.

Museum ships are kept alive ever so barely in a lot of cases, and some don't make it at all because the society/assocciation has trouble scraping up the funds. The USS Texas...a World War One era superdreadnaught...nearly sank right at her moorings because of the badly deteriorated condition of the hull, and the sloop of war USS Constellation had to be taken over by a different group because she was in such a state of disrepair, that she was literally being held together with heavy wire cables and devout prayer.

Imagine if you will, the problems in trying to maintain not one, not two, but three liners in one place. Could it be done?

Hypothetically...yes.

Realistically....uhhhhh...nope.
 
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Good Morning Michael,

I would normally agree. But who ten years ago would have thought they'd build a reproduction Eifel Tower in the middle of a desert in Nevada? Or for that matter, a 47 story tall version of the Empire State building?

Not being a gambler, Las Vegas is the last place to be on my Vacation guide. But when I was sent there on business for a convention, my jaw dropped at the site of those magificent buildings.
I still think if built as buildings, not floating ships, they could be built. The money is there, but my worry is would it be done tastelfully? Ordinarily the words "Tasteful" and "Las Vegas" wouldnt be associated together, but after walking through the Paris hotel and Bellagio hotel, it can be done.
 

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Given that H&W seem all about done with, how about a static Titanic as David suggests, built from modern materials with modern long-term corrosion knowledge, housed in a glass-topped Thompson Dock in Belfast?

There's all that surrounding history, you could maybe save the Nomadic and get that there, and generally create a genuine, respectful and educational 'attraction'. I'd rather that than some daft Japanese 'replica' ship taking people to sea for millions per ticket, all dressed in their best Rose outfit and queueing to pose on the bow railings...

(Glass topped dock- keeps elements out, gives ship appearance of floating. It's about to be done in Bristol for Brunel's s.s Great Britain.)
 
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>>I would normally agree. But who ten years ago would have thought they'd build a reproduction Eifel Tower in the middle of a desert in Nevada? Or for that matter, a 47 story tall version of the Empire State building?<<

Perhaps, but those are rather smaller projects, and unlike a ship, they don't rest in the medium of salt water. That's the issue I was addressing when I was speaking to the question of replicas of al three Olympic Class liners being built. Further, if it was done, it would be an incredibly expensive undertaking if the intent was to produce an end result that would be true to history. Anything less would merely be a costly sideshow.

>>how about a static Titanic as David suggests, built from modern materials with modern long-term corrosion knowledge, housed in a glass-topped Thompson Dock in Belfast?<<

If you can get the money to do this, you're more then welcome to try. There will still be the expense of upkeep though. To get a snapshot of what that would be like, you might ask the Royal Navy what their budget is for keeping the HMS Victory in decent condition. Then take into account the fact that a replica of Titanic would be much larger and much costlier.
 
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Chris Nicholson

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Only make one ship as I suggested at the top of this thread. Three would be like a dream, but it just wouldn't be practical to build two oher ships that much of the public hasn't even heard of.Id say the best place for it to be housed would be somewhere in Disney World. They are a company that could easily make it back within a month or two. Plus they have been very interested in the Ttanic before. If it gets built they should have it attached to some tank roughly 10 feet deep filled with fresh water. Below the waterline they could stop making riviting since no one will see t and instead make the bottom out of concrete.
 

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