Titanic crew member ann caton survies the sinking only to get no money for her duties

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to all members of the board i would like to say that a titanic cremember by the name of ann caton wasnt paid by the white star after surviving the sinking she went to get paid by the white star line but they told her that they wont pay her because the ship went down is this right or could they do this i dont think so because she deserved her money because she survived the sinking and i hope someone can answer the question jennifer mueller
 
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Hi Jennifer,

All pay for the crew ceased on the 15th. The header sheet for the Surviving Crew reads: Termination of Voyage ... 15th April ....Vessel Lost.

With specific reference to Annie Caton she signed for and received 16/-. That equates to 6 days pay based on a monthly wage of 4 pounds.

I hope this helps,
Lester
 

Dave Gittins

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Actually, Lester is only half right. Although the crew's pay stopped on April 15th, in accordance with the practice of the time, the surviving crew were paid a bonus by White Star. This consisted of full pay for the time they spent away from home. For most, it was an extra 13 days, representing time spent in New York and in returning on Lapland.

An example of an Account of Wages, showing this bonus, can be seen on page 135 of the illustrated edition of A Night to Remember. The bonus was announced as early as April 22nd.
 
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Hi Dave,

Thanks for that. That information must be contained in another PRO document. Any idea which one?

Regards,
Lester
 

Dave Gittins

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Lester, it doesn't seem to be in anything I've seen from the PRO. The form on their file is as you describe. Everybody signed for 6 days pay. Several Account of Wages forms have been published, including three in Titanic Voices. These show a bonus, usually of 13 days, for those who returned on Lapland, but sometimes it's more. George Moore appeared at the US inquiry and didn't get back to England until Saturday, May 11. On Monday, May 13, he collected his 6 day's pay, plus a bonus for 26 days. That amounted to £5-6-8. He must have been broke before he sailed, because he obtained a £2 advance on his wages at Southampton. That was an ancient custom of the sea.

I can't find the reference just now, but somebody said the bonus was given because 'the unions squawked'. That may have been so, or it may have been a PR stunt. Whichever it was, it didn't cost White Star much.

I make Annie Caton's payout £2-10-8. What it is to be old enough to be expert with pounds, shillings and pence!
 
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Hi Dave,

Thanks for that. - You remember pounds, shillings and pence! You poor old thing! - Welcome to the over ..'s club.

Regards,
Lester
 

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Lester, I can even do long division of £sd. (Down hill, with a tail wind)

I found the bit about the unions squawking. It's on this site. It's a radio interview with Albert Horswell dated May 10th 1934. In it he said,

"After the hearing the surviving members of the
Titanic's crew were paid off. First we were offered 2 pounds,
3 shillings and fourpence, but the unions squawked and the
line finally settled with us for 3 pounds, 3 shillings
and fourpence -- $15.83 in American money. That's all we got
for our work and our so-called "heroism."

Although a lot of his story is inaccurate, his figures make sense. £2-3-4 is 13 day's pay for a seaman. £3-3-4 is 19 days, 6 on Titanic and 13 on Lapland.
 
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Hi Dave,

Long division of £sd! I would wait for that tail wind. But yes at a pinch I think I could still manage multiplying and dividing in £sd! The hard bit is converting £sd to US dollars and cents; for which you score 10 out of 10.

Thanks for the added info on the pay received by the Surviving Crew.

With my best wishes.
Regards,
Lester