Titanic Lounge 3D Model Rework


Tripp Carter

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Hey all, as some of you might remember I had started making a 3D model of the lounge years back. After purchasing an upgrade of the program I had previously been using, I've been going back lately and gutting a lot of my older models and redesigning them using the latest tools and features available to me in this new package. Below you will find 3 renders involving the lounge model I had started a long while back. The upgrade has allowed me to design the windows myself (which still need some extra attention), as well as add things such as mouldings, newer "furnishings," etc. I copied the carpet weaving from James Cameron's Titanic book and placed it in the model. It doesn't appear to fit very well, but I just wanted to show it off anyway. Enjoy!

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Tripp,

I think the other carpet example in the Cameron book would be more accurate for the Lounge. In fact I've sometimes wondered whether that was an original Titanic carpet design that cameron just used in the wrong room.

Regards,

Daniel.

PS. Did my window e-mail come through?
 

Steve Olguin

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Hey Daniel!

I am glad I am not the only one who thinks that the carpet JC used in the Dining Saloon set was probably used elsewhere, perhaps the Lounge.

Your work is great Tripp, what program are you using? I cant wait to see it as you start filling in all the detail.
 

Tripp Carter

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Thanks guys. Daniel, I'm afraid not. I haven't had access to my g-mail account for a while so I swapped it back over to uscaslayer03@hotmail.com in my profile.
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What other example might you be referring to, I don't recall seeing a second one in the book? Steve, I'm using Punch! Architectural Series 4000. It's a home design program that is slowly evolving out of just "home designing" and becoming a little more of a general design program in my opinion. It's not that hard to use, except for when it doesn't have what you want and you have to either scratch build or paste images into your render to use as what you are looking for.
 

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>>>It's not that hard to use, except for when it doesn't have what you want and you have to either scratch build or paste images into your render to use as what you are looking for.<<<

Sadly, thats the way with mine. I have had to create all the textures from scratch, which is a pain in the you know what. I am looking to upgrade to a more complex CAD program after the first of the year, as my program allows me to export the project into other CAD programs for more fine-tuning. With this I will be able to create the glass dome and the complete staircase. I am hoping to eventually have a "Perfect" model of Britannic's proposed GSC as there really doesn't seem to be much about it other than this one UFTM rendering and the one produced by the Organ makers. I am aiming to have this thing done by April.

Does your program allow you to create complex paneling? I am really looking forward to your future updates!
 

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I think the complex paneling might be something that has to be scratch made, I'm not really sure at the moment. This is probably the first time in at least a year that I've messed around with any of the 3D Titanic models I had started on. As for AutoCAD, I would love for someone to teach me how to use that thing. My school has it on all the computers and I have tried looking at it but it looks very intimidating.
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Tripp,

I received your private message via ET, and I wrote you a very long e-mail detailing what you asked. I replied via the ET private message as well, because the ET-mails no longer show the e-mail addresses (and you did not give me one). I would hate to type it all out again! :)

If you don't have the e-mail I sent you, let me know and I will try recap the gist of it.

As for the carpet, I think in the JC book there was a close up photo of the Reception Room carpet, and the carpet they used in the Dining Room. The Dining Room carpet is the one I think was most appropriate for the Lounge.

Daniel.
 

Tripp Carter

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Hey Daniel,

I just checked that account this morning and I found it. Thank you so much for the reply! As for the carpet, I think the one I used in the above renders is the one you might be referring to. I wish when I scanned it, the scanner wouldn't have made it look so funky, now it looks wierd having it tiled across the floor in the lounge renders.
 
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Tripp,

I have now got JC's movie book with me. On pg.93 is the design that you used. This was the design that JC used in the Reception Room (which is somewhat representative but not entirely accurate of the real carpet).

For some reason, I had it in my mind that a similar close up section was shown of the Dining Room carpet. Which either doesn't exist in the book or I can't find it! Either way, it is the carpet from the Dining Room which is very similar (if not the same) as the carpet that would have been used in the Lounge.

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Daniel.
 
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The way I understood it, is that BMK Stoddard couldn't find the appropriate patterns used on the actual Titanic, as their archives didn't go that far back, hence a special pattern (that was still true to the era) was woven especially for Cameron. As such, the pattern that you can see in the movie in the dining saloon and reception area (reproduced in the companion book) is most probably *not* what would have been on the actual ship.
 

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Thanks for the advice guys. I will try to find a more appropriate graphic later. As for now, I'm still trying to get settled in after arriving last night so I haven't had any time to fire up the design program and do any modeling. Take care!

-Tripp
 

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thanks, steve!
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daniel, i think i might have made a mistake in my model somewehre down the line. it looks to me as if maybe the wall height is too much or i don't have my windows at the proper elevation. if you look at the render below (with the updated carpet thanks to steve
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) you will get an idea of what i'm talking about. the windows on the left side of the render are 98.00" tall with a 38.00" elevation above the floor. the windows on the right are at the dimensions you gave me (77.00" ?), but with a 38.00" elevation also. i believe the wall height is set at 147.00"

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Tripp,

I don't know if you ever read the TRMA message board, but the Lounge windows were discussed there not too long ago and I believe the elevation of the windows was mentioned. I can't remember it, so you may want to check it out.

The Lounge windows were 7ft 5in tall, which is 89", not 77". While the Lounge height was given at 147", that is the extreme height. You have to take into account the depth of the beams which was at least 5.5in, then the thickness of the metal deck, the flooring and the ceiling panels and you'd probably end up with an interior height of 139" give or take.

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Tripp,

I know that carpet looks good and now that the shadow has been removed also, but I just had to say something. The carpet was green and gold, and that is really the wrong design for it.

Daniel.
 

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Hi Daniel,

Well that was a sample from James Cameron's Titanic Dinning saloon set, so I guess that the Dinning room carpet was not that from the lounge. I think the carpet in Tripp's model appears so dark because of the lack of light in the model.
 

Tripp Carter

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hey guys, i went back and resized the windows (and mirrors) to what you suggested daniel, and i also checked the TRMA message boards to get the correct elevation. i'm currently scratchbuilding the doors for the room. that in itself is kinda tricky considering i have no clear images of what the doors look like. i know the tops are more oval than circular. i'll post a render of the aft doors as soon as i finish.
 

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