Titanic PASSENGERS who'd already been on the Olympic


Arun Vajpey

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I am trying to find out how many passengers on board the Titanic's ill-fated maiden voyage had traveled on board the sister ship Olympic before the disaster. I am referring to only bona fide passengers, NOT crew or White Star staff or others who were on the Olympic on any official capacity. Also, only those who were on the Olympic before the Titanic.

I know of two, little Virginia Martin-Emmanuel and her nanny Elizabeth Dowdell. But I am sure there were others.
 
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Out from memory J.J. & Madeleine Astor, Margaret Brown, Percival White, George Brereton, Drew, Abott, Dodges.
There must be several more but can not remember right now.
 
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Arun Vajpey said:
I am trying to find out how many passengers on board the Titanic's ill-fated maiden voyage had traveled on board the sister ship Olympic before the disaster. I am referring to only bona fide passengers, NOT crew or White Star staff or others who were on the Olympic on any official capacity. Also, only those who were on the Olympic before the Titanic.

I know of two, little Virginia Martin-Emmanuel and her nanny Elizabeth Dowdell. But I am sure there were others.
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JJ and Madeleine Astor
 
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I just remembered reading somewhere that Steward Frederick Ray had served Martin and Elizabeth Rothschild on the Olympic before they sailed on the Titanic.
 
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Arun Vajpey said:
But he was not on the Titanic. There are rumours that he had a suite booked but changed his mind due to business pressures or something. I don't know if that is true.
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Ismay's wife cancelled, said his son was sick. She was found two days later on vacation or something. I think JP Morgan said the same.
 
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I've always read that J.P. Morgan claimed he got sick and thats why he canceled his trip. That helped fuel some of the conspiracy theories that are out there. Given his age at the time it could be as simple as he wasn't feeling well. None of the theories I've read involving him made no sense anyway. He died less than year after Titanic so I tend to believe he was probably feeling poorly.
 
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Likewise. But whoever or if ever whom he was with ......It is well documented that he was not aboard the Titanic.....And he wasn't sick.
 
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Robert T. Paige said:
Likewise. But whoever or if ever whom he was with ......It is well documented that he was not aboard the Titanic.....And he wasn't sick.
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Yes. True. No doubt about that. Whether or not he was sick or wasn't I don't know. He could have been using that as an excuse for something else. But he wasn't in the best of health his last years.
 
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Arun Vajpey said:
But he was not on the Titanic. There are rumours that he had a suite booked but changed his mind due to business pressures or something. I don't know if that is true.
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On this sites page on him one of the articles say he booked the suite. But cancelled. It also says 2 others had booked that suite and cancelled also. That's how Ismay ended up with it.
 
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Hmm, What about Violet Jessop?

Not TECHNICALLY A passenger, But still was present during the major accidents of all 3 Olympic Sisters,

Olympic's Collison with Hawke

The Sinking of Titanic

And the Sinking of Britannic and nearly being killed when the lifeboat she was on got turned to mulch by Britannic's Propellers.
 
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Mike Spooner

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Here is another one you might add to the list whether he did or did not book on Titanic. Bruce Ismay younger brother James. According to the local historian of the Iwerne Minster village Dorset England where he lived he did book, but cancel due to ill health.
 
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Hello, Mike---

I'd still like to know the evidence supporting the historian's belief that James Ismay was booked to sail.

www.encyclopedia-titanica.org

Ismay's homes

thanks for the information shelley
www.encyclopedia-titanica.org www.encyclopedia-titanica.org
 
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Hi Mark,
In Frances Wilson book: How To Survive The TITANIC or The Sinking or J. Bruce Ismay.
Page 106/7. Lord Pirrie could not join Ismay on Titanic was recovering from prostate operation. James Ismay too, was ill with pneumonia.
 
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