Titanic The Ship Magnificent

I get the feeling your impressed with it Mike.
And just think, we left stuff out. But that could be easily fixed by compiling (adding) another volume.
 
>>I get the feeling your impressed with it Mike<<

Just a bit.
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>>And just think, we left stuff out. But that could be easily fixed by compiling (adding) another volume.<<

I'd buy it in a cold second!
 
I thought I saw a rigging plan in the book.

Oh...(looks at webpage)...I get it. This is the full sized plan on offer here.

>>I have to admit, the response has taken us all be surprise.<<

If you all play your cards right, you may get some interesting new material for any revised editions or even that hypothetical third volumn.
 
By way of explanation, the rigging plan in the book, the plumbing plan and several others were originally intended to be in foldout format, but the publisher felt it would be cost-prohibitive and turned us down. Just thought I'd mention it in case anyone's been wondering why the detail in some of these plans is so small.


Regards,

Art Braunschweiger
Editor, TTSM
 
Hmm, I guess I'm just not good enough or someone doesn't like me at Amazon.
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Still no word on even when my copy of Volume 1 will ship. It wasn't so bad when everyone else seemed to be waiting with me, but now seeing everyone else get theirs and not even getting an estimate makes one feel a bit left out. Ah well, it will arrive when it arrives I guess.
 
>>Just thought I'd mention it in case anyone's been wondering why the detail in some of these plans is so small. <<

A pity the foldout wasn't doable but if one can't afford to buy the sheet, one can always use magnifying glasses.
 
Guys,

Many many thanks. All of you have been around for a long time, and I respect your opinions. In fact you all are to credit for this work because it was the rivet counters that we wanted to reach most of all - all over the world - and I mean we get correspondence even from Africa!

As Art stated, we have had some form of communication breakdown with the publisher with E-mail that will require a phone call from me I guess. Is it that time of the year in Europe when everyone leaves for a month holiday? As for the US distributor, I'll be calling them also.

Just a few quick notes:

When I can get to it, and this will be soon, I will send Steve copies of some of the plans that are hard to read in the book for the web page. We have not worked out how to do this to avoid the usual internet theft, but we will attempt it as long as the publisher O.K.'s it.

I will post a drawing of the Foc'sel that shows the proper placement of the four steam control pedestals. All four were not in a direct athwartship line, and I did not have time to make these corrections before the deadline.

To the BTS, Charlie Haas at TI and of course Dave here at ET, thanks for the good reviews. I have not seen the THS write-up yet but Tim stated elsewhere that we will not be disappointed. As it stands now the author's are very happy. I just hope the general public will also like it. I am told the book will be shown in the US distributor's fall catalog for the bookstores.

There will be a few corrections to some cabin numbers on the plans as seen in the book on one of the decks - 3rd class aft I think, that Daniel needs me to fix. This will be posted in the Errata on the TTSM web page.

When things settle down, Steve and I will be pulling out the conspiracy book and updating it - fixing the few mistakes in there (such as the one sea trials photo caption in the beginning), filtering the Olympic Appendix through Mark Chirnside again, and maybe even offering it to the History Press or other publisher if they are interested (and we get a good deal). That book, though out for a number of years now, is still a constant seller.

Regards,

Bruce
 
>>That book, though out for a number of years now, is still a constant seller.<<

And when the revised version comes out, I'll be getting in the queue to get mine.

I'm currently reading through TTSM Vol. One right now and I don't think I'm going to far out in saying that both volumns will become "The Bible" for techies everywhere who want to know that last nuts and bolts details of the ship.

TTSM is groundbreaking in a lot of ways not the least of which is that it goes into the details of a single ship in an in-depth way that has never really been attempted with any ship. Design histories abound but detailed works on a single ship of interest to this extent...this to my knowledge is a first.

Makes me wonder what you guys might go for next.
 
Mike,


I will probably write an article on the writing of this book in more detail then what is posted on the TTSM site for the societies out there that would want it. I'm sure that some people are saying to themselves "This information is waaaay over the top - more then anyone needs" and they are correct. However, we did this on purpose. Why? Because we are afraid that shipbuilding in this era, and more specifically the Titanic's construction, will be lost to the future generations after all of the ephemera and technical sources have found their way either out of someone's closet into a trash bin having been thrown out by a grandchild or over eager landlord, or these period books become so rare that they can only be found in certain libraries under lock and key - and at that, one would still need to piece it together. In other words, we wanted to seal this information into the annuls of time for the future, and that is why we went overboard with much of the subject matter. We could have done more, but cut it, or held back for obvious space reasons. This is why we welcome feedback and even criticism on this book also, and why we tried as much as possible to steer clear of controversial matters also. In 50, 100 or 200 years, this book may be all there is to tell the story of Titanic's construction.

Recently I started working on my family's genealogy, and even facts that are no more then 40 years old are gone with the death of a family member. But no-one seemed to care to ask when the person was still alive, and now I am stuck here looking for what would have been an easy answer ten years ago. Imagine what we would have now if someone back in the 50's had this kind of fascination for the specifications of Titanic when Walter Lord first interviewed those survivors? Instead of asking about the human stories or whatever, someone asked one of those saloon stewards where they ate their meals or some other crewman what color their bed spreads were? what kind of flooring was laid in the alleyways of where they worked or what color a skylight was painted, or how they even opened the damned thing? Now we have to piece it all together with shards of information.

We also feel for Joe the modeler in his garage, and those on up, who long for these types of facts but may never have the chance to get it. We all were there once, and have had a few doors slammed on us too (and still do). I understand to some degree, as I can't answer everyone's personal request either.

So here is a book of information. This book (it was supposed to be one volume initially remember) is really nothing more then my original personal notes highly expanded with the help of the other guys. With this book out in the public, the Titanic playing field has been leveled to some extent, and now the awareness and knowledge of anyone who reads these books, and understands most of it, will be at an advanced level to start with. Perhaps now we won't have to try and explain that the 36 socket signals were not the same as distress rockets - even though both were fired from a socket, or what the differences were between the ventilating bitts and the regular ones, or what a "floor" is and so on...

And Phil,

In the second edition we are going to include a warning page to release us of liability for any injuries that may occur from reading this material
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Bruce
 
Bruce,

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I will probably write an article on the writing of this book in more detail then what is posted on the TTSM site for the societies out there that would want it.

I'd be very interested in reading that. They are a technie feast. Of course, I have not yet managed to read the entire two volumes yet. I have done most of them, but there is still more to go. Real life seems to get in the way!

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In other words, we wanted to seal this information into the annuls of time for the future, and that is why we went overboard with much of the subject matter.

I don't think you went overboard, but maybe that's just me.
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It's very much a niche market, but it's a quality product. If people find it too detailed, then they're free not to read it. For people who do want to read it, however, then it's a very refreshing insight.

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In 50, 100 or 200 years...

In fifty years you'll probably have Daniel and I, by then in our seventies, giving lectures at various maritime museums: 'when I was young, I remember this book made a bit of a splash...' (And we'll need some younger, stronger assistants equipped with a crane to hold the book up before the audience.)
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Best wishes,

Mark.
 
>>Because we are afraid that shipbuilding in this era, and more specifically the Titanic's construction, will be lost to the future generations after all of the ephemera and technical sources have found their way either out of someone's closet into a trash bin having been thrown out by a grandchild or over eager landlord, or these period books become so rare that they can only be found in certain libraries under lock and key-<<

And I'm afraid that your concerns and fears in this regard are well founded. The actual ship's construction drawings appear to have gone AWOL after being donated to the Ulster Folk and Transport Museum. Personally, I don't think they were lost, but they are being very careful with them, and for good reason.

Literally tons of records went into the landfill when Cunard cleaned out White Star's old offices for the last time and moved to new digs and the story behind the founding of THS has become the stuff of legends. History is being lost and if what's left is not preserved right now, while the surviving primary sources are still extant, it'll be lost for good.
 
To those in the know: could you please tell me the name of the US distributor??? I have a bookseller friend in the US who can obtain the books for me, but I need the name of the distributor for that purpose. I've e-mail Steve Hall twice without reply. Without this info, I am afraid I can't buy the books.
 
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