Murdoch was a Scot and Lowe was Welsh. They were not all "Englishmen".
When I was a kid of 7, I believed that in Argentina the ground started to slope downwards steadily as one went South till the horizon was literally at your feet. You could then look at the sky up, front and even partly down.Mila, are you saying that the earth is really round? Then those in Australia are standing upside down,and they would all fall off.
I have just done so.Read the review by Geoff Whitfield:
Senan Molony presents a fascinating insight into White Star Line’s conduct following the loss of their prize vessel “Titanic”. In his opinion the ship should never have been allowed to sail whilst in such an unsafe condition. It is a now accepted f... Titanic Review Thu, 11 Apr 2019
Absolutely, Julian!I completely agree with you Jim in your forensic conclusions.
The simple unavoidable fact is that Senan does write in a most readable style. I don't myself consider it 'journalese', just good writing style. Going back many years ago it has certain parallels with A. J. P. Taylor, a very noted academic and historian.
Senan has done a lot to promote proper research on here, and he has provoked probably far more to put pen to paper than anyone else has done. Others have had to follow where he gave a lead. We probably know far more about 'The Californian Incident' due to Senan provoking others, and he also did much excellent research of the primary documentary sources, so that in my early days on here my only source for the 18th April statements of Gibson and Stone was from one of his research articles on here. Same with Groves' 'Middle Watch' essay.
I think certain books and articles that have subsequently been written might have been better in hindsight if not so overtly 'Senan bashing'!
One could equally argue Leslie Reade's book would have been a far better book had it not gone in for 'Leslie Harrison bashing'.
Captain Currie, have you ever thought of writing a book about Titanic ?I have just done so.
In the "oven" at this very moment and exactly as you would like. (Are you looking over my shoulder?)A good pal of mine (who i'm delighted to say is starting to get interested in Titanic) and I were talking and the subject of Titanic came up.
"Oh aye, I meant to tell you, the other day I watched a documentary on the internet about the Titanic that you'd love."
"Great, what was it called ? what did it focus on ?"
"I can't remember what it was called but it was about how a coal fire basically snookered the ship and they covered it all up, oh and about how they cut corners during the construction too."
"Aww fir f.........."
I did recommended that he watch the A&E series "Death of a Dream" and "The Legend Lives On"
Captain Currie, have you ever thought of writing a book about Titanic ?
Perhaps a professional's analysis on various examples of leadership, the chain of command, basic seamanship on the night of April 14/15 1912 ?
Because if you did, I'd be going down to Waterstones to order my copy in a heartbeat
Seumas wrote: "Perhaps a professional's analysis on various examples of leadership, the chain of command, basic seamanship on the night of April 14/15 1912."My reason for this response is basic. While the book may be worthy of recommendation as a piece of interesting literature, it can hardly be classed as a textbook source of facts concerning the Titanic disaster.
Never said it was, or was intended to be, but neither is:it [Tramps & Ladies] can hardly be classed as a textbook source of facts concerning the Titanic disaster.
Smashing !In the "oven" at this very moment and exactly as you would like. (Are you looking over my shoulder?)
Mr Halpern, I will definitely keep an eye out for Bissett's memoirs without a doubt. Thanks for that recommendation.Seumas wrote: "Perhaps a professional's analysis on various examples of leadership, the chain of command, basic seamanship on the night of April 14/15 1912."
Tramps and Ladies gives a very insightful look into the question of leadership, the chain of command, and basic seamanship in the early era of the 20th century from one who worked his way up that chain of command. The involvement in the Titanic disaster is but a small part of the overall story. Stepping back earlear, the same author wrote about growing up and apprenticing in the days of sail before moving on to steamships. The name of that first book was Sail Ho! My Early Years at Sea.