Titanic's Grand Staircase Photos

hello all. Question- I checked TE a couple of months ago and I saw a picture of 2 young lads next the grand stair case of the olympic or the titanic. I'd really like to know if its still here. Thanks.

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OK, I am really confused. Please help...

1) Are there NO photos whatsoever in existence of Titanic's forward Grand Staircase?

2) Are ALL the photos we DO see the Olympic's forward Grand Staircase?

3) Did the Olympic DID have an ornate "Honor and Glory Crowning Time" in its forward Grand Staircase.

4) Did Olympic and Titanic BOTH have basic square clocks in their aft staircases (shown only in Olympic)?

Thank You.
 
>>Are there NO photos whatsoever in existence of Titanic's forward Grand Staircase?<<

None that have ever been published. One has high hopes but if any photos of the Titanic's Grand Staircase have survived to the present day, they are in private hands.

>>Are ALL the photos we DO see the Olympic's forward Grand Staircase?<<

Yep. Every single one.
 
Hey Guys
This is always an interesting question relating to the similiarities between Olympic and Titanic's interiors fittings and I think I may be able to help you out at least a little with a few of your questions. Olympic and Titanic's forward Grand Staircases would have been virtually identical. A small set of the interior concept drawings for Olympic and Titanic turned up a couple of years ago which showed that Olympic was made up from a set of Interior concept drawings which the artisans and carvers used to make up the various panels (these images had wall plans, as well as detailed plans which showed the Louis XVI & XIV suites on board Olympic. Also included were images of chair details, table details, wardrobe details, washstand details and dresser details. To say that the designers of Olympic, Titanic and Britannic were festidious and 'over the top' is a bit of an understatement. If I remember rightly, in this small but amazing collection onl the detailing from around the dome of the Grand Staircase was identified. Olympic and Titanic would have been made up from the same interior concept drawings, also interesting to note from these drawings, where differences did occur, like in the A La Carte Restaurant due to her extension and alteration with the success on Olympic, the interior concept drawings were labelled as Titanic, the same interior concept drawings were also used for at least one or two of Britannic's staterooms as Henry Aldridges had an auction a couple of years ago featuring three panels from one Britannic's staterooms, saved from a pub in Belfast which I noticed were also featured in these interior concept drawings. (Sorry I can't post any images as the drawings are part of a private collection and the owner doesn't want any involvement with people like us) But just to say really, what you see on Olympic is what you would have seen on Titanic apart from the well known changes. The reason why Olympic pictures are always featured in place of Titanic is quite simple really, when Olympic was launched and took her Maiden Voyage, she was the first of the class and so needed to be advertised quite widely to get people talking, with Titanic being so identical to the Olympic, meant that only the massive changes were photographed by Harland and Wolff (i.e. the Cafe Parisien and the private promenade on the Millionaires Suite) because it all costs money and there is no point doing something twice with very little gain, so Olympic's images represented her and her younger sister. When I get home from work, if any of you are interested, I will try and post a few images on here for you from my research collection of some sections of wrought ron work from Olympic's forward Grand Staircase and inquiry room which are now located in a Cement works in Lancashire which I found during some research recently (heres a link to the newspaper article that arose from the find). Just as a point Mr Mcmillan, I can provide you with the exact dimensions of Olympic's Aft Grand Staircase dome which were mentioned in Olympic's sale of fittings catalogue in Nov 1935, but please note that the Aft Grand Staircase was actually completely different in dimensions to the Forward Grand Staircase. If you want me to dig that info out for you, drop me a mail and I can send you some info.
 
>>There was a photo in Last Mysteries of the Titanic with a tiny clock in the middle of the panel on the landing of the GSC. Could that be from the Titanic?<<

'Fraid not. In fact, there's some controversy over whether or not the clock was ever even installed. When the Titanic went out, some parts of the ship were still incomplete. Not really a big deal on an undersold voyage but there you are.
 
I wonder if this, coupled with the fact that Titanic was ship #2 in the class with Olympic getting all the attention, was one of the reasons there are so few interior Titanic photos.

Maybe White Star didn't have a lot of photographers running around in there because Titanic wasn't fully "dolled up" yet. Just a quick thought.
 
>>I wonder if this, coupled with the fact that Titanic was ship #2 in the class with Olympic getting all the attention, was one of the reasons there are so few interior Titanic photos.<<

That's exactly the reason for it. As the second sister of the planned trio, Titanic recieved the typical treatment given to same. As the first of the class, it was the Olympic which recieved most of the publicity and press attention. The builders and the line probably planned to do some more extensive photographic studies, some for future promotions and some for records keeping and technical assessments, but there was no need seen to make it a priority.
 
I thought the reason why Titanic was never photograph like the Olympic was, is that the Titanic sank really early in her carrier which no one had the chance to photograph her?
 
>>I thought the reason why Titanic was never photograph like the Olympic was, is that the Titanic sank really early in her carrier which no one had the chance to photograph her?<<

That was a part of what Matthew was pointing out. I wouldn't say nobody had a chance to photograph the ship. Quite a few shutterbugs were out and about in that day, but most all of them were private citizens. The consequence of this is that a huge majority of the photos which survive to this day are to be found, unpublished, in private collections.
 
"The consequence of this is that a huge majority of the photos which survive to this day are to be found, unpublished, in private collections."

Eight unpublished photographs have recently come forward to the TTSM authors. Where from ??? A chap in India. They will likely be seen in Volume III.

Steve
 
Sorry michael. I meant that the media in 1912, they had no chance of taken photos of her, like they had with the Olympic with 25 years. Titanic only had 4 - 5 days at sea and before that couple of weeks.
 
>>I meant that the media in 1912, they had no chance of taken photos of her<<

Oh they had opportunities. They just didn't see any real urgency or need. I guess sinking never occured to them. Had some news hawk been gifted with the power of being able to see the future, he could have turned it into a golden opportunity!
 

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