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Message: [QUOTE="Mark Robert Hopkins, post: 229162, member: 139485"] Jeff- [indent] In Titanic's sake, I would say that "intended" is inconsequential. How could such a term as "intended" be even applicable in the case of the Titanic sinking, which in itself was an unexpected event? The fact remains that these [i]were[/i] the resting places for many of those on board. Should they be be treated less so because they were "unintended" in nature? [indent] Again, this doesn't apply to Titanic, since the bodies at the bottom where not found or retrieved before total decomposition. I repeat: Does this make the site less of a gravesite simply because many other sites had their human remains retrieved at an earlier point in time? In my opinion, Titanic should be treated uniquely, just as several other crash sites should. [indent] Well, chances are that many of the victims went down inside the ship, too. Why, then, should the ship itself be exempt from being considered a gravesite or part of a larger gravesite? In my opinion, just because no shoes/boots were discovered inside the wreck deoesn't mean that people didn't meet their end there. The one salvage rule established--Do not remove anything from inside the ship--seems to reflect on this consideration, among others. Paul-- [indent] We don't know this as a fact. Most of the victims' remains were never retrieved. This suggests that many probably [i]did[/i] go down inside. Even if "most" didn't, should the wreck itself be treated less respectfully because "only a few" victims went down inside? If [i]one[/i] victim went down inside the hull, the ship should be treated as a gravesite. Several sources suggest that some did die inside the ship. One example would be a travelling mate of Canadian Thompson Beattie (I forgot the man's name; Jason, can you please help me here?), who was believed to have died in his bed. Another example would be the Italian stewards from the restaurant who, it was said, were ushered to a cabin on E-Deck aft and locked inside. I don't know if the latter is true, but we can't really say it didn't happen, either. Considering this, it is reasonable to presume that victims went down inside--1 or 800, it doesn't matter. It would still be considered a gravesite by definition. Yes, I did read through all of the posts. I just felt like making my own points.[/indent][/indent][/indent][/indent] [/QUOTE]

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