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not to sure if this is the right place to post this as im very new at this so here goes. I was watching James Cameron last night on tv in a documentary where he supposedly was taking his final dive down to the wreck . I heard him say that he thought it would have been possible to offload some of the passengers onto the iceberg itself that night , giving them a good chance of survival until help came. I have never heard that before, is it just my ignorance ? Help.
 
Hello Michelle,
I'm assuming you're in the UK, and that you watched the Tony Robinson / JC documentary last night, so I'm moving this to the Titanic on TV folder where there is a thread discussing it.

Your post could actually have joined some discussion on this topic which has taken place, but I can't find it! Even the moderators get confused, you see, as this sort of question can crop up in a number of different threads. From my memory, most members here were rather doubtful about this idea. It would depend if the iceberg had a reasonably flat shelf near to sea level, wouldn't it? And it was so dark, most people could only see the lit-up Titanic, never mind row to an iceberg nobody seemed able to see after it drifted astern. Not to mention trying to get women in hobble skirts and leather-soled shoes, young children etc. onto slippery ice.... Cameron looks pretty fit to me, so perhaps he was really thinking that he could have got onto an iceberg?
 
Cameron had the idea of somehow swinging the passengers onto the iceberg using one of the deck cranes! His other suggestion was that Titanic could have been driven in reverse towards the light seen on the horizon.
 
"I heard him say that he thought it would have been possible to offload some of the passengers onto the iceberg itself that night , giving them a good chance of survival until help came."

Evening Michelle, et al. I'd have thought the first (main?) problem with this idea would be finding the iceberg again. By the time the ship had coasted to a standstill, it must have been some distance away. On a dark night, finding the iceberg, then manoeuvering a damaged/sinking ship alongside it, would appear (to my untutored mind) a near impossibility.

I was surprised when Jim Cameron suggested this. I get the impression he is extremely knowledgeable where Titanic is concerned, and surely he would have discussed this theory with other 'experts' as well. Perhaps therefore the idea is more workable than it first appears.
 
>>Perhaps therefore the idea is more workable than it first appears.<<

Naw, it's a stoopid idea. And Cameron in his jaw-dropping double assumptions really let himself down in that excerpt.

Neither are his core area of interest or expertise, of course, where his achievements are monumental. But it was disheartening. Et tu, Jimbo?


Overall, having previous seen the National Georgraphic docu and all the treasures of the discovery, I found this programme to be another dull pastiche.

Obviously Cameron part-financed his last expedition by selling off packages of "dive + docu" to various TV parties who could feature their own personality and add in some expedition footage.

We've now seen at least three of them, of which the McKimm one was the worst.

I'm getting really tired of these "my dive to the Titanic" shows. They inevitably pander to the lowest common denominator and some of the duff information thrown up is truly shocking.
 
Fair enough Senan, BUT, as I only have basic free digital TV here in the UK, I've waited a LONG time to finally see some of the finds of this expedition, and so the programme was still very valuable to me, and I'm sure to many others also.
 
Oh, absolutely, Mike. I make that point.

It is AMAZING to see the treasures of the Turkish Bath, and the remaining evidence from the Marconi room, not to mention the ormolu clock, and the engraved glass panelling in the Duff Gordon cabin showing the central tudor ship, bordered by Celtic motifs, including a very recognisable Phoenix...

Seeing that Phoenix rise from the silt after 90 years was spectacular.

I quite take your point. It is totally arresting to see that stuff the first time. And hats off to all involved.

But when you've seen it a time or two and are led to believe this is another "new" dive documentary, it is just disappointing to realise that it actually isn't.
 
So this was just another version of "Last Mysteries..."? Well at least those in the UK had the chance to see these new finds, I remember watching it for the first time and my jaw dropped when the camera focused in on the Straus fireplace. Everything was just so amazing.
 
Can somebody tell me please the name of the programme that was on just after Christmas, either BBC 2 or Ch 4? It was a type of drama-doc about the H & W Guarantee Group. Specifically, I want to do some research on the guy that had worked in the shipyard, but then took a job as a crewman (deckhand?) on the Titanic, he left his two young sons with a sister as his wife had recently died. He did not survive.
 
Helen, The man was Thomas Millar. The documentary was not too accurate. He was an Assistant Deck Engineer, not a deckhand, presumably because he had skills gained at H & W. He should have been shown greasing a winch, or some such task.

A correspondent has suggested that the story of the two pennies is not true. According to him, 1912 pennies had not been issued by April 1912. You might like to research the story.
 
Steve Olguin said:
Hey Ernie,
What we saw here was a live telecast called "Last Mysteries of the Titanic". I don't think they are the same thing, but considering that it was shot at roughly the same time, I am sure many of the new finds will appear or be mentioned in the UK produced version. Parks Stephenson would know more about this than me, maybe he can chime in.
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We saw the Squash Court!!
 
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