Brian Ahern
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Does anyone out there have any info on Tyrell and Julia Cavendish, aside from what is on their ET bios? I mean as far as their personalities, the circumstances surrounding their marriage, and Julia's life post-Titanic?
I've always been curious about what brought together this high-born Englishman and (Jewish?) American. Over the years I've only been able to pick up a few tidbits here and there on them, and have had to assume what I can.
A few years ago, I located a brief blurb in the London Times, printed not long after the Titanic's sinking, mentioning Tyrell's will being registered in probate. If I remember correctly, he left behind something in the neighborhood of 70 or 80,000 pounds. This was quite a fortune in 1912 and shows that Tyrell wasn't just another impovershed nobleman who crossed the ocean to find himself a dollar princess.
In fact, I once came across another newspaper article from 1912 where Julia's father, Henry Siegel, described his daughter's marriage as one of the few happy international marriages he had ever seen. I realize it's un-scholarly not to quote an exact source here, but this was some time ago.
Anyone interested can view Tyrell's family tree at http://www.worldroots.clicktron.com/foundation/britain/johncavendishgen.htm. But you'd have to be REALLY interested to bother because all it does is list the birth/marriage/death dates of his ancestors and descendents with little info besides.
The Cavendish's have always intrigued me because they are so shadowy, though I believe their son Henry did cooperate with Walter Lord for ANTR. They almost never appear in survivor accounts and it's always seemed to me that a bona fide English aristocrat, with a wife who appears quite stunning from her photos, would have attracted more attention among the first class passengers. I tend to think of them as modest people, who were very close to each other and kept to themselves.
Obviously, though, this is guess-work and I would very much appreciate hearing from anyone who could provide greater insights into these two elusive people.
Regards,
Brian Ahern
I've always been curious about what brought together this high-born Englishman and (Jewish?) American. Over the years I've only been able to pick up a few tidbits here and there on them, and have had to assume what I can.
A few years ago, I located a brief blurb in the London Times, printed not long after the Titanic's sinking, mentioning Tyrell's will being registered in probate. If I remember correctly, he left behind something in the neighborhood of 70 or 80,000 pounds. This was quite a fortune in 1912 and shows that Tyrell wasn't just another impovershed nobleman who crossed the ocean to find himself a dollar princess.
In fact, I once came across another newspaper article from 1912 where Julia's father, Henry Siegel, described his daughter's marriage as one of the few happy international marriages he had ever seen. I realize it's un-scholarly not to quote an exact source here, but this was some time ago.
Anyone interested can view Tyrell's family tree at http://www.worldroots.clicktron.com/foundation/britain/johncavendishgen.htm. But you'd have to be REALLY interested to bother because all it does is list the birth/marriage/death dates of his ancestors and descendents with little info besides.
The Cavendish's have always intrigued me because they are so shadowy, though I believe their son Henry did cooperate with Walter Lord for ANTR. They almost never appear in survivor accounts and it's always seemed to me that a bona fide English aristocrat, with a wife who appears quite stunning from her photos, would have attracted more attention among the first class passengers. I tend to think of them as modest people, who were very close to each other and kept to themselves.
Obviously, though, this is guess-work and I would very much appreciate hearing from anyone who could provide greater insights into these two elusive people.
Regards,
Brian Ahern