Tyrell and Julia Cavendish

I

ian Hough

Member
Ben

It would be great if you could E-mail me the afore said info - and any info details as the whereabouts of Adolphe Saalfeld is buried.

Look forward to receiving them
Thanks
Houghie
 
V

victoria clout

Guest
i am after information on ellen "nellie" barber who was a maid to mrs tyrell william cavindish on titanic, she was rescued on passenger lifeboat number 6 with mrs cavindish and they traveled as first class passengers! ellen barber was aged 26 in 1912 and born in penshurst tonbridge england and last permanate address was stafford, england! if anyone has heard of them, or knows them can they please get in touch ASAP! only via email though as i wont beable to access this site, email address: [email protected]
 
D

Dana Cuddeford

Guest
Does anyone know where I can find a picture of Turrell Cavendish and his wife? I am looking for pictures of certain passengers and I am having a hard time finding any. Someone please help me.
 
D

Dana Cuddeford

Guest
Hi, Bob. Thanks for your reply. How do I get to his bio page? Maybe the small picture you are referring to will be good enough. I'm desperate.
I went to the link you gave but couldn't find it.
 
D

Dana Cuddeford

Guest
Never mind, I finally found his bio page. Thank you so much for your help. By the way, that is a cool link. I didn't know that existed. (I'm new to this site) Thanks! : )
 
B

Brian Ahern

Member
I've been reading scraps of info on the Net about a Henry Siegel who moved from Chicago to New York and became prominent in the retail business. Most notably today, he is responsible for the historic Siegel Cooper building on New York's Sixth Avenue.
Unfortunately, he reportedly went to prison in 1914 for defrauding creditors.

I assume this is Julia Cavendish's father, since she was born in Chicago and is always referenced in contemporary accounts as the daughter of New York merchant Henry Siegel. The poor thing - I know nothing about her personality but her photos reveal an elegant, pensive-looking (and gorgeous)woman and life certainly dealt her a tough hand sometimes.
 
B

Brian Ahern

Member
Perusing the Cavendish family tree reveals that a granddaughter of Tyrell and Julia married Henry Ralph Rokeby-Johnson, who was at the center of the Lloyd's underwriting scandal, which Britons on the board (and others) will no doubt recall.

The insurance disaster caused notables such as Camilla Parker Bowles, Frances Shand Kydd and others to take big financial hits.

I am always hungry for information on the Siegels and Cavendishes. I don't suppose anyone knows who Julia's mother was?

Regards,
Brian A.
 
B

Brian Ahern

Member
You're a man of few words, David
Happy
. Thanks a ton for answering. I've never come across the mother's name anywhere, not even on Julia's death certificate.

Regards, and thanks again.
Brian.
 
M

Martin Williams

Member
I was recently flicking through an old copy of 'Country Life' (from sometime late in 2005) and, in the property section, I came across a double-page spread devoted to the Cavendish home, Little Onn Hall, which had just been placed on the market. There was a wonderful colour photograph of this really rather impressive pile, surrounded by extensive landscaped gardens. The interiors looked to be quite grand too. I can't remember what the asking price was but it was somewhere in the region of £2,000,000 (and doubtless would have been much, much more, if a house of this size had been located in a more 'fashionable' part of the country than rural Staffordshire).

What struck me was that the writer of the article made no reference to the Cavendishes, although a potted history of the house was given. I found this very surprising - in these days when all things 'Titanic'-related cause a stir of interest, you'd think that the estate agent would have really played up the connection. I gather that, in 1912, Tyrell Cavendish was only renting Little Onn from the then-owner - forgive me if this has already been covered, but does anybody know why he and Julia were living in a relatively obscure English county?

Once, in an idle moment at work, I looked up Julia Cavendish in an old peerage dating from the mid-1950s...even though Tyrell had been dead for decades by that time, his aristocratic connections meant that his widow was still automatically listed. The address given for her was in Kensington, somewhere close to Gloucester Road. I went to check it out when I was next in the area. Julia's house stands in a VERY elegant neighbourhood, in a small, secluded square, away from the hustle and bustle of the busy roads nearby. Whoever lives there now is obviously very wealthy indeed, as the property is extremely well-cared for and, in today's prices, would cost very many millions.
 
B

Brian Ahern

Member
Thanks for sharing that, Martin.

Glad to hear Julia was still comfortably off (it sounds), since the Siegel wealth apparently vanished in her lifetime. But Tyrell was well-to-do in his own right at the time of his death.

I'm pretty sure Julia's death certificate gives another country house as her address.

Please feel free to keep even the most mundane details about the Cavendishes coming
Happy
 
M

Martin Williams

Member
There was certainly enough money left in the 1920s to educate her sons well...I'm typing this without having re-checked my facts but I'm pretty sure that the same peerage stated that at least one of the Cavendish boys (am I correct in thinking there were two?) went to Stowe, which is today one of England's most exclusive and fashionable (not to say expensive!) public schools. If you're interested, you can look up the entries for Tyrell Cavendish and his descendants under 'Waterpark' in Burke, which gives all this information, doubtless more accurately than I can!
 
Top