Unknown Child Positively Identified


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I only heard a small part of the world news tonight and heard something about the unknown child buried in Halifax was postively identified today through DNA samples. I thought that it was determined months ago that the results were inconclusive. What does anyone know about this?
 
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Hi Darren,

See Phil Hind's post under:
Lost and Saved
Exhumations Press Release
Philip Hind - 6/11, 6:06 pm - for immediate release

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From People Magazine online:

November 7, 2002


Titanic Victim Identified 90 Years Later


STEPHEN M. SILVERMAN



Tales of the Titanic never fail to fascinate, and this week a new story surfaced and it's a doozy.
Ninety years ago, immediately following the tragedy, Canadian sailors buried an unidentified infant who perished on the ship, and touched by his fate, dubbed him the Unknown Child -- a symbol of all the children who were lost when the luxury liner sank, the Associated Press reports.

Only now the Unknown Child is no longer unknown. Following DNA tests that have established his identity, on Tuesday, Magda Schleifer, a retired Finnish bank clerk who is related to the child, visited his grave.

"First I thought this could not be true," Schleifer, 68, told the news service in a telephone interview from Halifax, Nova Scotia, near the cemetery where the tiny body was laid to rest.

Schleifer was long aware that her grandmother's sister, Maria, was among the 1,503 people who had drowned when the great ship went down in 1912. With Maria were her five children -- including her 13-month-old son, Eino Panula.

A Finnish survivor had informed Schleifer's grandmother that Maria was offered a seat in one of the Titanic's few lifeboats. "But she refused to leave the boat only with Eino, while her four other children were still in another part of the boat," Schleifer said.

Now, after two years studying a fragment of the body's wrist bone and three teeth, researchers in Canada have concluded that the Unknown Child is Eino.

Said Schleifer, after declining when she was asked about possibly moving her relative's remains to Finland: "He belongs to the people of Halifax who took care of him for 90 years."

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K. Lynsey Ayers

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In our city newspaper, as I was browsing through and I was a bit excited to discover an article that reported the "Unknown Child" has been found. So supposedly, the child isn't Gösta or Eugene, but thirteen-month Eino Panula. So thus science has answered one of the questions about TItanic.
 
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i would like to express my condolences to the family of eino panula 90 years after his death and may they be comforted knowing that now everyone knows who the unknown child is and that everyone here wont forget his name and so i say may he rest in peace and may his family sleep in peace jennifer mueller
 
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Corinda Rich

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Here's a link to the above story...a friend of mine had forwarded it on to me...
http://www.msnbc.com/modules/exports/ct email.asp?/news/831409.asp
(my apologies for not being able to cut and paste the link, hopefully this will work)...otherwise just go to www.msnbc.com and look in the tech/science category.
My condolences as well to the family, but it is nice that another name can be added where only a number was.
 
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Corinda Rich

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Well, I tried my posted link, but alas, it does not work...but, www.msnbc.com does, and if you go into the tech/science category, then into the SCIENCE one, you can access the story...my apologies...
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Kyrila Scully

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There is a very nice article in the new People Magazine (look for Jon Bon Jovi on the cover) about Eino Panula's identification, complete with photographs you all might be interested in. I didn't even know the article was there when I bought it, and my daughter read it first and pointed it out to me.

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Hello Kyrila,
Yes indeed, nice sequel to the story. Also was mention of the PBS documentary
in regards.

Airs Nov. 20

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Thanks for the heads up on the article. Also nice to see a photogrph of the father. It answered several questions I had. I immediately bought the magazine to add to my scrapbook collection.... Was chided all the way home that all I REALLY wanted was the pictures of Bon Jovi....
 
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Corinda Rich

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Yes, thank you, Kyrila for that info...hope all is well with you!

LOL, Colleen...you got that too, did you? I had to open to the Titanic article before I even bought the thing just to prove that was why I was buying it...

Corinda
 

Inger Sheil

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Here's a long overdue photo posting that Gavin asked me to put up at the end of 2003 - just found it in my inbox.

Alma Paulson's headstone in the background makes it an even more powerful image. The headstones of a mother and a toddler, both of whom were lost with all their respective families who sailed.

Gavin took the image on a visit to Halifax a couple of years ago.

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©Gavin Murphy, 2005
 
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I presume that either a new headstone will be created with the infant's name on it or that the name will be added to this one? Or will the remains be delivered back to the infant's point of origin to be buried amongst his descendants?
 

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Hi Mark,

I've wondered the same thing if a new headstone is going to be created or if the name will be added on, but seeing that it's now been three years since the discovery was made, it doesn't seem likely.

As far as the remains go, when the family was asked about them, they replied saying that they don't see a need for a new grave. Their reason is that they believe he belongs to the people of Halifax, since they took care of him for ninety years.
 
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Taking care of an unknown baby for 90 years is a very fine thing. I think the family have made a dignified and generous decision.
 

Jason D. Tiller

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I totally agree, they could very well have requested that the remains be returned to Finland to be with the deceased family members and that would have been their right. Instead, they chose to leave the remains where they are and for that I commend them.
 
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Eino was my g-g-g- grandfather, and we are keeping his remains where they are, i mean why move them now, after so long?My grandma, Magda, always swore it was Eino buried in that grave, and a few years ago we found it true. We have visited with him many times, and we love him.
 

Heather McKee

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This is a very touching subject. I'm completely amazed!! After 90 years of not knowing who the baby was, it was discovered that it was Eino Panula. May his little soul rest in piece.
 

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