Victim #26

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Phil Fazzini

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Was the "Cowes" address refer to a hotel?
If he was a cook would He had a"Brass Apron Clip".
Yet he had a "white Steward Coat".
Could he have been employed as a WAITER-did waiters have a cloth apron clip after carrying a cloth under
the tray?
 
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Bob Godfrey

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The clothing under the topcoat - white 'steward's coat' and check cotton trousers - would be typical for a cook. The apron clip fits in with that. I see nothing in the address to suggest a hotel.
 
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Phil Fazzini

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Could the letter have been address of a former employer for reference??
 
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Phil Fazzini

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Of three confectioners on Titanic -only one can be eliminated-he was a 2nd Class passenger. Of Titanic 2 pastry Chiefs/Cooks-one was found and identified.
In regard to age-one confectioners was 22 and the Assistant pastry Cook was 20. This leaves only Ernest John Farrenden who was 32-same as estimated age of victim and was from Hampshire; likewise Barnes establishment was in Hampshire.
 
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Bob Godfrey

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The best contender would be Frederick Barnes, assistant baker (age 37 and Southampton born). But the body was described as probably 'Italian', which was the standard word back then for anybody who looked to be from S or SE Europe or the Middle East. So look at the kitchen staff in the restaurant too.
 
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Phil Fazzini

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Another possiblty is Waiter Sig. Vincenzo Pio Gilardino; his brother was a confectioner and Vincenzo had lived in Hampshire. Yet would a waiter have been carrying address from Hampshire Confectioners and Pastry Cooks?
 
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Phil Fazzini

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Other possibilities:
Mr Auguste Louis Coutin "Entree Cook" {Pastry{?} 28
Perhaps someone can find a 1912 memorial notice that deceased at worked at "both" Hampshire and Isle of Wright in either Baking/cooking/pastry/confectioners profession!
 
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Phil Fazzini

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Note: in 1904 Directory of Who Who p.1262 found reference that 22 Sidney Street was residence of a Prince Kumar Shri Ranjitsinhji of Kathiwar.

22 Sidney Street is now {2009} a pub
 
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Phil Fazzini

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In 1881 English Census listing of 2 Frederick Barnes of Hampshire England:
1) Frederick William Barnes of Southsea age 6 son of David Barnes b. 1849 of Royal Marine Artillery barracks
2) Frederick Barnes of Holdenhurst born about 1875 age 6 son of Charles Barnes b.1839 of Ringwood Hampshire England
The English 1881 census also lists a Charles Barnes of Holdenhurst born about 1879 age 2 son of Charles Barnes b.1839 of Ringwood Hampshire England
If Number 26 was Frederick Barnes then the Charles Barnes listed in the Address could very well have been his brother
 
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Philip Hind
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Hitherto just a number but is it possible that Titanics recovered victim No.26 has finally been identified?...
Victim 26 hp

Titanica! Mon, 08 Jan 2018

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