Victim #39 - Evening Dress Clue


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Phil Fazzini

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Possibly Benjamin Guggenheim valet?

[Moderator's Note: This message, originally posted in an unrelated topic, has been moved to the one which is discussing unidentified victims. JDT]
 
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Phil Fazzini

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Possibly member of Ship's orchestra? At least 5 possible IDS.
 

Chris Dohany

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The ship's orchestra wore uniform jackets with green facing. The three bandsmen whose bodies were recovered were all wearing this jacket.

Victor Giglio, though born in Liverpool, was of Egyptian descent and dark complected - a quality not remarked for this body.

The body was seemingly well dressed, and the "silver ring" he wore could indicate a married man. A well dressed, dark-haired, possibly married man in his mid-twenties could describe a handful of 1st class victims and even more 2nd class.
 
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Damn, once I read that "evening dress" thingy I immediately thought: sniff sniff... this smells like Benjamin Guggenheim. But no, Giglio was dark complected and nothing about skin colour was recorded of body #39, so that one was probably Caucasian like most bodies.

Thanks for informing me about the jackets of the orchestra, though.
 

Arun Vajpey

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The ship's orchestra wore uniform jackets with green facing. The three bandsmen whose bodies were recovered were all wearing this jacket.

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Is that a fact? Seem rather unusual to me at such a time. One assumes that the band (or anyone else) would not have gone to bed in a jacket with or without green facings. But if 3 of the band were wearing them when found, it must have been to keep warm in the chilly night air. I cannot imagine that they stopped to wear full dress uniforms while the ship was slowly sinking under their feet.
 

Bob Godfrey

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When the crew were called back to their duties they had no idea that the ship was sinking, so those who had finished their shifts and retired to bed got up and dressed in their uniforms as usual. When it became increasingly obvious that the ship might be going down some had the opportunity to change or obtain additional clothing from their quarters (if still above water) but for many, including the bandsmen, this would not have been possible as they were continuously occupied.
 

Arun Vajpey

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When the crew were called back to their duties they had no idea that the ship was sinking.
Probably right, but would not at least some of them thought it rather unusual to be called back to play their instruments around midnight in the chilly conditions?
 

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