Victims of Lusitania and the Southampton Committee


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Andrew Williams

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Does anyone know the nationalities of these people listed below?

If you carefully notice the passenger number quoted beside the surnames. Remember these passenger cases are the latest victims of Lusitania, and not Titanic.

Unfortunately I am not the holder of any other proof as the original documents were destroyed, but there is a possibility that the Mansion House letter to the Southampton Committee dated on the 2nd of August 1916, including a list of names, was read out to the members by the Chairman Henry Wilding requesting all major support from everyone as Liverpool saw the work load increase by threefold. Exactly how many names were transferred over to the Southampton Committee remains permanently unknown? I would imagine a small proportion, but there again, I could be wrong with that assumption.

However and during that meeting which took place on the 8th of September 1916, and as ever the usual business of the day was always conducted secretly behind closed doors, I am please to say, those Southampton members attending did vote unanimously, and agreed to the Mansion House's offer and wasted not time in doing their duties to serve in the best interest of each of the dependent families concern.

Needless to say, the bulk of the work would be much placed on the shoulders of that infamous Lady Visitor of the Southampton Committee, Miss Newman. She certainly was a very formidable woman and didn't take to fools very kindly. Her resourcefulness never withered as she always kept her undue loyalty firmly in the corner of her clients, who she felt were her own personal responsibility and made sure the got the full care they so rightfully deserved.

Nevertheless and besides her willpower, she never overlooked any opportunity when the need of money matters had to be settle so she wouldn't be out of pocket during her next round of visits. Not once did she ever miss out of any of her expense's as nearly every monthly meeting she's there, never failing to hand in a bill, too such extend, I wasn't surprise to see the only bill under the heading - Lusitania cases - amounting to the grand total of £1. 3s. 6d.

Most things considered I am still left in dark as I don't know how she accepted this new batch of dependents as that area of intriguesness isn't commonly known. I will stop going round the mulberry bush now, and won't keep you waiting any longer and delivery this new unexpected surprise appropriately with a small biography of each case found in the various pages at Southampton Archives.

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Under P15 Norman (Lusitania) - All actions with this case was suddenly withdrawn. Why I don't know.

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Under P12 Norman (Lusitania) - From start to finish this particular widow concerned turned out to be an absolute nightmare. She would become a real thorn in the side for both area committee's London and Southampton.
What caused her to take the next action remains unclear, but she approached a solicitor's office up in Liverpool with a view of gaining access to all the investments of monies held by the Fund. A crucial mistake on her part as she would be promptly informed in the most polite manner possible, and basically told to get lost!

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Lewin (Lusitania no number issued) - The Southampton Committee was asked to start all investigations into this case, and as a starter the family did receive some finical help with a one-off payment amounting to £50.00 only. No other discussion is disclosed regarding this family.

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These are the only three families I have found. If anymore names should crop up in the near future then I shall do the honours by bring this thread up to date.

I would be very grateful for any feedback on offer.

Thanks in advance.

A.W.
 
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Andrew Williams

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Correction on my part - P15 is Parsons and not Norman.

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Andrew Williams

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Correction again. Scrapped my message above at 6:19 pm.

P15 is Norman whilst P12 is Parsons.

Sorry for the confusion.

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Jim Kalafus

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Robert Norman, 39, victim, was a British citizen residing in New York.

Archibald Parsons, 30, victim, was a British citizen living in New York.

I detect a pattern.....

Might "Lewin" have been a badly transcribed "Lewis?"
 
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Andrew Williams

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A very early good morning Jim,

Had a funny feeling your knowledge about her may force your hand to provide the information I was looking for. Many thanks.

Interesting stuff to see both Norman and Parsons were British residing in the U. S.

Thanks for the returned feedback but I'll be off to work pretty soon. When I finish and have a chance I'll call back but your suggestion about 'Lewin/Lewis' may very well be correct as the hand writing at Southampton isn't all that brilliant.

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Jim Kalafus

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MY MISTAKE...and, occasionally I do make one
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...there WAS a "Lewin" aboard. 45 year old Frederick Lewin, first class, died in the disaster.
 
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Andrew Williams

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MISTAKES.....No worries we all make 'mistakes' myself included.

Is there any way I can contact you privately as I would like to discuss something else connected with the Lucy?

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Andrew Williams

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Ref:- The Parsons Family under the Lusitania number P12. I knew there was another side to this story I missed.

I wouldn't exactly say I was jumping over the moon but I definitely feel like one of those code breakers at Bletchley Park. I think it's safe to say now, and irrespective of all the odds against me, I've managed to break that code which seemed totally impossible to achieve.

The other Sunday afternoon (20th of July 2008) I was causally browsing the pages of the Minute Book No 3 of the old Southampton Committee, and whilst absorbing each of the cases concerned, the alarm bells began to ring when all of sudden; my attention became firmly fixed upon this particular case about the Parsons family. No matter how many occasions I've gone down this road to search on the internet to find that additional-bonus to solving all these problems, the setbacks I experienced was next to nothing.

However, and please I beg you all don't get me wrong because I hold the highest esteem for all the members serving on the Southampton Committee, but despite all their formalities, the law-abiding system they adopted, even down to the gobbledegook-rhetoric's, there only comes that one occasion when I can safely say, that exceptional moment at finding that missing-link has finally arrived. If the truth was known, I have spent nearly seven years investigating all the channels available in the U.K., whilst the answer I frantically wanted was starring directly in front of my face. Seven years wasted, but those seven years are not all in vain!

Suffice to say, I have to switch my attention with Jim Kalafus again as I need to ask him two questions which are classified for me as serious. In return, I will deliver my side of the bargain by announcing the following details I found during the finical year of 1926. Exactly eleven years after the Luistania was torpedoed.

First. Jim, do you know what year Mrs. Parsons died?

Secondly. The siblings, was one of the son's called Bertie?

Jim, I do value you feedback and eagerly await your reply.

Best wishes

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