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Did you check out the Persia thread I mentioned Jason. That could be the Empress some day. The Persia might of had remains inside of it but that didn't stop them from cutting her up like Jack the Ripper.
 
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I heard that as well. On another thread somebody said that there were skulls being sold on EBay but I think that was a rumor. But I've heard of skulls being taken as souvenirs
 
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Ah yes thanks.
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What happened to the Persia is a historians nightmare and just makes me so mad. It's enough to turn me anti-salvage.
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So I'll just hush for a while and go out for a walk.
 
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>>Just because the Empress is NOT officially legally defined as such, does that make it less of a gravesite? Is the Empress any less worthy of being designated a legal gravesite (and therefore not open to salvage)? They're both sunken ships with dead people on 'em.<<

For whatever it may be worth, the destinction here is that the USS Arizona came to her end by a deliberate act of war whereas the Empress by way of a bad accident. That may not mean much, but the fact that the Arizona is still used to this day for interments of her veterens just might. At least in the eyes of the law.

Moral destinctions however, are a whole 'nother smoke! They also tend to be highly subjective matters of opinion, to say nothing of sentiment. I don't pretend to have all the Right Answers to that one.
 
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Part of me says it fine for them to bring up plates and cups, cutlery or anything that belonged to the line. But if they start bringing up bones or even personal possessions that where I draw the line. I'd be thinking where did they get that ring or pair of glasses. Off somebodies remains my mind would say. But that's just me. I guess I just don't like the Empress being salvaged with bones on it. It just creeps me out. I don't even like the idea of bones being filmed on the wreck, but because of my curiosity of what the ship was like and wanting to see. I deal with it. Besides it reminds folks that people died down there and that the ship should be respected as a grave even if it isn't legally one. Like Jason and Mike said it's all subjective.
 
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