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tis is probably the stupidiest question you will ever hear, but would the real Murdoch's voice sound anything like Ewan Stewart's.
 
Feb 9, 2006
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Well...were the both Scottish? I suppose somebody who knows accents could see where Murdoch was from and where Ewan Stewart is from and but two and two together.

In other news, whenever I watch ANTR I am confused why the guy playing Thomas Andrews sounds so British. Wouldn't he have has a more Victor Garber in "Titanic" accent?

I wonder, because I've heard Chilean accents and thought "is that person from South America or Eastern Europe?"
 

Tad G. Fitch

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Hi Lucy, how are you? Good I hope. While I think that Victor Garber did a fine job portraying Thomas Andrews in Titanic, his accent is definitely wrong. I have an acquaintance from Belfast, and her accent sounds nothing like the generic Irish accent used in the movie. First Officer Murdoch was Scottish, and I believe Ewan Stewart is as well.
Kind regards,
Tad
 
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I'm lovely, Tad. I hope the same to you.

Oh, interesting! Well, in respect to ANTR Andrews, is his accent wrong as well. The fellow sounds squarly British to me, but as I say, I could easily be dreadfully wrong.

In respect to Murdoch/Stewart, I assumed that some might know the sound of Murdoch's area of Scotland and compare it to Stewart's...Or am I delving too deep?
 

Bob Godfrey

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Lucy, if you have the ANTR dvd then you also have the 'Making of' documentary which is included. On that you'll hear a lot from Bill MacQuitty, the film's producer. Bill was born and brought up in Belfast in a middle class family like that of Thomas Andrews. His voice will give you some idea of the degree to which people from such a background (ie geographical and social class) had any kind of Irish accent.
 
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Ah, but I do not have the DVD, Bob! The VHS for five dollars seemed like the right choice for a girl with not a lot of money and who needed to see the movie now now now!

But with my Titanic obsession going towards six months (which I am sure sounds paltry, but it feels longer to me somehow), I will not be able to resist that dvd forever.
 

Dave Gittins

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In Europe there is enormous variation in accents, sometimes within a kilometre or so. Bernard Shaw was not exaggerating when, in Pygmalion, he has Henry Higgins say, "I can place any man within six miles. I can place him within two miles in London. Sometimes within two streets."

I've known a Scot who spoke like an English aristocrat and others who had thick accents. In the absence of a recording, it would be very difficult to know how Murdoch spoke, even after a visit to Dalbeattie.
 

Bob Godfrey

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Upper class people from anywhere in the British Isles do not have regional accents, though Prof Higgins could probably detect enough of a trace to place them! :) The same is true to a great extent with the upper middle class, to which presumably Andrews belonged. I imagine that he would have used more of a local inflection when addressing his workers, but that he would have conversed with First Class passengers in a manner of speech hardly distinguishable from their own. Probably a lot like Michael Goodliffe, who played him in ANTR.

From my own travels in Scotland I have the impression that regional accents are strongest in the larger cities and, strangely, are sometimes almost non-existent in remote parts of the highlands and islands. Murdoch was an educated man from a small town in the Dumfries & Galloway area of SW Scotland, which is further south than the NE of England. His regional accent would have been detectable, but not strong - just as Ewan Stewart played it.
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Mkirksmith

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Well...were the both Scottish? I suppose somebody who knows accents could see where Murdoch was from and where Ewan Stewart is from and but two and two together.

In other news, whenever I watch ANTR I am confused why the guy playing Thomas Andrews sounds so British. Wouldn't he have has a more Victor Garber in "Titanic" accent?
I live near Comber in Co.Down and have friends who went to RBAI, Andrew's school - called Inst, btw. Titanic is on tv at the moment and Andrew's accent is annoyingly and completely wrong. It is not remotely like a middle class and educated Co.Down accent.
 

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