Was any lifeboat lowered full

[Lester Mitcham]

Hello Bill,

Hope you are keeping well.

>>I'm sure Lester's totals are far more accurate than these!<< I do not have any totals. I have never had access to sufficient information to be able to undertake such a study.

With all good wishes for 2009.
Regards,
Lester

 

[Bill Wormstedt]

Sorry about that, Lester. I jumped to the erraneous conclusion that since you had done extensive research on the survivors, you knew who was in which lifeboat. My mistake.

 

[Kyrila Scully]

Hi, Bill! Haven't crossed paths with you in awhile! Anyway, if anyone is interested you can find Lee Merideth's book TITANIC NAMES which will identify the boats. It's in nearly an identical format as my own, but he lists all the passengers and crew alphabetically while I only list those in the lifeboats in accordance to their launches. Unfortunately mine is no longer available at this time.

 

[Kyrila Scully]

http://www.amazon.com/TITANIC-NAMES-Complete-List-Passengers/dp/0962623776/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1232504864&sr=1-1

 

[monica e. hall]

This'll get some people going.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1124162/How-good-manners-cost-Britons-lives-doomed-Titanic.html

 

[Charles B. Weeks Jr.]

Monica:
Casey Stengle, (one of our famous baseball managers) once said,"Nice guys finish last."
Regards,
Charlie Weeks

 

[Mark Baber]

Charlie---

Casey or Leo Durocher?

;-)

 

[Jeremy Aufderheide]

I'm more angry that the still of the wreck being raised in Raise the Titanic is labeled as the ship hitting the iceberg and beginning to sink. That ruins some credibility right there.

>> "The Americans at that time were not very
>> cultured, while the English were still gentlemen."

????????

Frey makes it sound like the Americans all wandered around talking like Slim Pickens and shooting up the Smoking Room with their winchesters.

 

[Michael Cundiff]

Mark B., YES you are correct...it was "Leo the Lip" Durocher which spoke that famous line. As a matter of fact, I collected Baseball memorabilia for 30 yrs., defacto my interest is resurging. Unfortunately the value of the Baseball *things* I had far outweigh my Ocean Liner memorabilia...oh well that is what a blonde hair, blue eye girl will do to a collection...;-) Then again Yogi Berra was heard to say..."It is'nt over until it's over".

Michael Cundiff
NV, USA

 

[monica e. hall]

I said it'd get some people going, and I was right.

Frankly, if the Americans got into the boats before the Brits, then I don't blame them particularly. But I think this research is weird. With such a relatively small amount of data then I don't think one can draw such conclusions. There's just too much confusion about classes and escape possibilities to be able to say who "leveraged" their opportunities (to use a modern term).

 

[Charles B. Weeks Jr.]

I stand corrected.
Regards, Charlie

 

[Jeremy Aufderheide]

Well, I think that these days anyone can claim anything about the Titanic and have it written up somewhere.

Making outrageous or "new" claims about the Titanic is a sure-fire way to get your name in print.

 

[Michael H. Standart]

>>With such a relatively small amount of data then I don't think one can draw such conclusions.<<

Well, you could but that doesn't mean the conclusions are worth the paper at the bottom of the birdcage that they're printed on. Humans are pattern seeking animals and always have been. It's a mental survival tool that dates back to our biological ancestors who were swinging around in the trees. While it's been a valuable survival tool, it tends to get overused. That is to say, we look for patterns and meaning whether it really exists or not.

That said, the piece in The Daily Mail may not be entirely wrong, however, it may oversimplify a problem or issue by looking for that ONE Thing which explains Everything when in reality, there were a wide veriaty of random factors at work.

 

[monica e. hall]

Hi Charlie!

You don't 'stand corrected' at all. I just think there aren't enough people, or enough sea tragedies, to draw such a conclusion. I think Mike is probably right - it oversimplifies.

And - in the general scheme of things, I think nice buys probably do come last. I just wonder how many of these 1st class guys were 'nice'. I'm sure I would have come last being totally incapable of fighting my way into a lifeboat. Well, at my age now. If I were in my 20s I might have made a better go of it. And quite right too.

 

[Jason D. Tiller]

I think nice buys probably do come last.

Huh?