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Timothy Trower

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As someone who is generally anti-salvage, I'd like to say "I told you so"; but nothing I say could possibly top this inane story. Sheesh.
 
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Romain Jerome said it purchased a piece of the hull weighing about 1.5 kg (3 pounds) that was retrieved in 1991, but declined to identify the seller. The metal has been certified as authentic by the Titanic's builders Harland and Wolff
Anyone smell a rat here? I do.​
 
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Having seen and touched Titanic steel sent to the University of Missouri at Rolla, and featured on one of the A & E programs about brittle steel, I am very skeptical that any Titanic steel has made it onto the open market. I was watched every second I was in the room with the steel, and when I washed my hands covered in rust, staff members even took the rust-covered paper towels! No steel left the locked room, and the lead scientist who was testing the steel told me he had to account for every ounce of steel he tested, even the steel dust cut by the saw! Robert H. Gibbons
 
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George Behe posted on the Titanic-Discuss list some years back that he had a catalog in his possession that offered two pieces of Titanic steel for sale.
Aparently genuinine.
Taken on the sly during a wreck expedition?
BTW, I sent an e-mail composed in both English and German to that Swiss company speaking my mind about these new trinkets.

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>>Imagine a watch made out of the ruins of the WTC in New York?<<

Well, they made part of a brand new warship out of the steel, (See http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/09/0921.htm ) but that at least stands as a fitting memorial to the victims. Frankly, I think this is in excruciatingly bad taste, but again, I would encourage everybody here to put on their Skeptical Caps. How do we know that the claim made for this steel is valid?

The fact is that we don't.

If it's true, then that's bad enough. If it's bogus, then as far as I'm concerned, that makes it a lot worse since it's not only crass commercialism at it's worst, it's also fraud.
 

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Watches made from what must be one of the rarest materials on Earth - metal from the hull of the Titanic - are going on sale for up to £75,000.

Salvaged by divers from the wreck of the liner - which lies 12,500ft under the North Atlantic where it sank after hitting an iceberg in 1912 with the loss of 1,500 lives - the metal has been blended with modern shipbuilding steel to make the casing of the timepieces.
 
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Oh and how I would love to see the provenance on
this gimmick!

The only TITANIC steel salvaged that I am aware of are, of course the BIG PIECE, including the pie sized piece removed for scientific purpose,
the handful of rivets which underwent extreme metallurgist examinations to determine the content of slag, which is now thought to have attributed to her starboard plating breech.
(As featured on National Geographic television)

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Jeff Kelley

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I have to admit that I have mixed feelings on this subject. WTC steel was shipped to Asia to be unceremoniously made into everything from paperclips to car parts to …. refrigerator doors. Would a refrigerator magnet made from the steel and honoring those lost be any less dignified? I am not trying to start a debate, but rather to just offer a rhetorical question for consideration and reflection.

As for Titanic metal….I will leave that to those who have been deliberating that issue for far longer than me. In any case, I believe that the steel from the watches was made from a pirate/renegade recovery operation. At least that is what I had read on ET a few months ago.
 
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I remember reading the initial announcement that these watches were to be made. I suspect the sort of people who would buy them (and be able to afford them for that matter) are the "big boss" power types to whom this watch is merely an ego booster toy item. It probably means nothing to them other than "Lookie what I've got on *my* wrist". This is just my own personal speculation.

>>>>what next, metal from World Trade Centre used as fridge magnets?<<<<

Seen that already.
 

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Interesting question, Jeff. IMO, metal is metal; it doesn't have a memory. Ultimately, the story of Titanic, her passengers and crew will be kept alive by people and not by material objects; be they rivets, watches, fridge magnets or anything else. There's certainly nothing 'holy' about Titanic steel. In a century or two, the wreck will have vanished completely but I doubt that its absence will remove the fascination that so many have for the ship and her story.

If agreement could be reached to bring up some of that metal so that we could improve our knowledge of the ship before it is gone forever (e.g. the wireless equipment) then I'd be all for it. Raising lumps of wreckage to turn into expensive watches just seems like a waste of energy to me. Whether either action is 'disrespectful' to those that died is an individual value judgement and therefore subjective.
 
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>>Whether either action is 'disrespectful' to those that died is an individual value judgement and therefore subjective.<<

My personal and highly subjective opinion: It's tacky. As always, your results may vary. Commerce seems to thrive on "tacky" and compared to what else is out there, this is fairly tame.

[Moderator's Note: This message and the seven above it, originally a separate thread, have been moved to this pre-existing thread. MAB]
 
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Lajos Berínyi

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My opinion about these watches:

I wouln'd not against this, if only ONE piece will be make, for an exclusive remember thing. /I straight not wrote "souvenir"/ But not more than 2000! This, in my opinion, already grave robbery. /How make we money from the people's solidarity of one tragedy/ This remembering me for the festival at the famous places, where the profiteers sell lot of plastic Christ, aluminium Eiffel towers, etc. But not. Because these mans not sells artifacts FROM the places. The RMSTI not want make money directly with its artifacts... yet... /Now I'm not think about the revenue of the exhibitions/
I'm scared.
 

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This, in my opinion, already grave robbery.

If you're talking about the watches, there's no hard evidence that the steel is from the wreck. The company that manufactured them claims that it is, but I smell a rat. Furthermore, the watches are very tacky and I wouldn't want one if someone gave it to me.

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I'm scared.

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Lajos Berínyi

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"that the steel is from the wreck"
God bless! I hope, this fake. Not for the number of used materials. This ethical question. I found it so morbid thing.
"the watches are very tacky and I wouldn't want one if someone gave it to me."
Me too...
 
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