What Did Titanic's Grand Staircase Actually look like?

[peterpeak362]

That's the after Louis XIV staircase on A-deck of the Olympic in May 1911 as taken by Robert Welch, who was Harland and Wolff's personal photographer. The forward Louis XIV staircase had Honour and Glory crowning time.

The Olympic wasn't switched as the Titanic and the Titanic wasn't switched with the Olympic. This has long been debunked: The Titanic 'Switch' Theory: Exposed

The theory, as proposed by Robin Gardiner and Dan van Der Vat, suggests that the Titanic was switched in the Olympic in October 1911 while the ship was in the state as you can see below:
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Anyone who knows a little bit about Edwardian shipbuilding knows that the fitting out of a ship takes months. The Titanic at the time had only two operational boiler rooms and practically none of her interior fittings between October 1911 to November 1911 when the Olympic was being repaired after the Hawke collision.

And beyond that, the Titanic and Olympic both had the same measurements in terms of the length at 882 feet and 9 inches

https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/community/community/threads/the-mystery-of-grand-staircase-cherub.2061/post-20394

The staircases in those pictures on Wikipedia are both of the Olympic; the Cherub's positions shows clearly.

You're perfunctory analysis of the switch promulgation are lacking depth, and are at best, sophomoric and of no reproof: All that was needed was a few etchings and new letter plates and a change of title of the plans; not difficult at all! And Olympic was around 30 ft longer than Titanic at their berthing.

 

[Thomas Krom]

The staircases in those pictures on Wikipedia are both of the Olympic; the Cherub's positions shows clearly.

Exactly. However the after Louis XIV staircase, of which you posted a picture of the A-deck landing is the after one which had a simpler clock:

You're perfunctory analysis of the switch promulgation are lacking depth, and are at best, sophomoric and of no reproof: All that was needed was a few etchings and new letter plates and a change of title of the plans; not difficult at all!

I'm just getting started, provide your evidence first then with sources. Bring it on. The name of the Olympic class liners also weren't letter plates but engraved into the hull. There were more differences to the Olympic and Titanic too than just the engraved names.

And Olympic was around 30 ft longer than Titanic at their berthing.

Rubbish, the Olympic and Titanic had the same measurements. You are likely confusing the length between perpendiculars, which was 850 feet for both vessels, for the length overall, which was 882 feet and 9 inches for both vessels.

 

[peterpeak362]

Exactly. However the after Louis XIV staircase, of which you posted a picture of the A-deck landing is the after one which had a simpler clock:

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I'm just getting started, provide your evidence first then with sources. Bring it on. The name of the Olympic class liners also weren't letter plates but engraved into the hull. There were more differences to the Olympic and Titanic too than just the engraved names.

Rubbish, the Olympic and Titanic had the same measurements. You are likely confusing the length between perpendiculars, which was 850 feet for both vessels, for the length overall, which was 882 feet and 9 inches for both vessels.

Bring what, Boule; the truth? The "Olympic" was 852 feet long; the "Titanic" under the sea was 882 feet.

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And the letters on the ship under the ocean are brass plates, floating away..not painted etchings

 

[peterpeak362]

https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/community/community/threads/the-mystery-of-grand-staircase-cherub.2061/post-20394

The staircases in those pictures on Wikipedia are both of the Olympic; the Cherub's positions shows clearly.

You're perfunctory analysis of the switch promulgation are lacking depth, and are at best, sophomoric and of no reproof: All that was needed was a few etchings and new letter plates and a change of title of the plans; not difficult at all! And Olympic was around 30 ft longer than Titanic at their berthing.

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Hello. It is known that all of the photos of Grand Staircase is of "Olympic". And photos clearly show that two types of cherubs existed: the one from aft staircase holded the lamp in his right hand, another- from grand staircase - in his left. I found a web page www titanic online.com, there it is claimed that at the aft staircase of "Titanic" (the wreck from recovered and said to be from C deck (?)) cherub would be smaller than "the famous larger cousin" and "the one of a pair mounted on the side banisters of the staircase rather than in the center". So is it the third type of cherub? However, the picture from "Olympic's" aft staircase show the cherub at the centre of staircase (and it's not looking smaller at all). The drawing of aft staircase of "Titanic" at B deck reception room near a la Carte Restaurant show the cherub exact as the one from aft staircase of "Olympic" - at the centre with lamp in right hand. So, I find it very confusing to decide, how "Titanic's" cherubs really looked like.
P.S. I used public use images (as it claimed) to illustrate this message.

The pictures clearly show only Olympic; but the problem is that this reception area should not exist on Olympic until after 1913...

 

[Mike-Esposito]

I don't know if this will be helpful, but in April I visited a traveling Titanic exhibition. They had a brochure from White Star talking up the forthcoming Olympic and Titanic. There was a section dedicated to the grand staircases. Additionally, they had a support strut (I don't know what else to call it) from the grand staircase salvaged from Olympic. I took these photos and I'm sorry they aren't the sharpest, but the exhibit was not brightly lit (which is not a surprise).