What happened to all the Titanic design resources?

[Cam Houseman]

A man from the National Museum of Northern Ireland (NMNI) Sent me a link with a good amount of the Olympic, Titanic, and Britannic (and some Nomadic plans in there!) plans. I urge anyone who wants plans to email [email protected]!

 

[Jose Alvarez 400]

A man from the National Museum of Northern Ireland (NMNI) Sent me a link with a good amount of the Olympic, Titanic, and Britannic (and some Nomadic plans in there!) plans. I urge anyone who wants plans to email [email protected]!

Thanks for the info, do you know how much are they? and, are they available in high resolution?

Best regards.

 

[Cam Houseman]

Hello There!
Very much so! For example, the 1933 deckplans, everything is extremely readable at maximum zoom, you can even see the texture of the plans themselves.


Mr. Weir, the man I emailed, said they are $15.00 per plan +VAT (not sure what that means)

And welcome aboard the message board, you'll love it here. Best of Luck!

Hi I contacted NMNI regarding what drawings they have, the only have general arrangement and some hull drawings. Sadly they dont have any piping, machinery or electrical plans. I am attaching the plan list they sent me.

He also sent me the spreadsheet which I opened with excel. They do have multiple machinery plans, such as the Turbine Seating as it was on Olympic and Titanic.

 

[Roger Southern]

Hello There!
Very much so! For example, the 1933 deckplans, everything is extremely readable at maximum zoom, you can even see the texture of the plans themselves.


Mr. Weir, the man I emailed, said they are $15.00 per plan +VAT (not sure what that means)

Hello Cam,

In the United Kingdom, VAT stands for Value Added Tax (a strange concept in some cases) which is currently 20%.

 

[Cam Houseman]

Hello Cam,

In the United Kingdom, VAT stands for Value Added Tax (a strange concept in some cases) which is currently 20%.

Oh, gotcha, thanks Roger!

Why is it strange in some cases?

 

[Jose Alvarez 400]

Hello There!
Very much so! For example, the 1933 deckplans, everything is extremely readable at maximum zoom, you can even see the texture of the plans themselves.


Mr. Weir, the man I emailed, said they are $15.00 per plan +VAT (not sure what that means)

And welcome aboard the message board, you'll love it here. Best of Luck!

He also sent me the spreadsheet which I opened with excel. They do have multiple machinery plans, such as the Turbine Seating as it was on Olympic and Titanic.

Sounds like a reasonable price to me, I will try to get as many plans as I can for my project.
Thanks for the info!
Best regards

 

[Incony]

i have tried to compile an as accurate record of what was in the electrical control room, how it functioned and was laid out including the known circuit diagrams of the generators and how they were controlled, why there were as many panels as there were, the bus bar layout, what fuses did what etc... The only piece of it i cannot place for certain, but have a good guess for, is the Equaliser, that enabled linking of the generators.. There is only one sketch of its location, but because of the size of the box itself, of which there are no on ship photo`s, ( olympic or titanic, or any others of that kind ) only the box... its not possible yet to be certain where it was, or exactly what its parts did... just how it was in the electrical circuit diagram... ive even made scaled plans of where all the parts were, good to be within 1 foot. it took me 25 pages to reach that knowledge.. you can read it all here - Electricity During Sinking. Really The Britannic holds a lot of keys to what was... its still intact on its side... but no one is going to plan it by diving yet, if they do, and record what was where, because its still there where it was built... one will uncover the mysteries of the Titanic for certain. but i bet my record of the control room.. holds true.

 

[Cam Houseman]

i have tried to compile an as accurate record of what was in the electrical control room, how it functioned and was laid out including the known circuit diagrams of the generators and how they were controlled, why there were as many panels as there were, the bus bar layout, what fuses did what etc... The only piece of it i cannot place for certain, but have a good guess for, is the Equaliser, that enabled linking of the generators.. There is only one sketch of its location, but because of the size of the box itself, of which there are no on ship photo`s, ( olympic or titanic, or any others of that kind ) only the box... its not possible yet to be certain where it was, or exactly what its parts did... just how it was in the electrical circuit diagram... ive even made scaled plans of where all the parts were, good to be within 1 foot. it took me 25 pages to reach that knowledge.. you can read it all here - Electricity During Sinking. Really The Britannic holds a lot of keys to what was... its still intact on its side... but no one is going to plan it by diving yet, if they do, and record what was where, because its still there where it was built... one will uncover the mysteries of the Titanic for certain. but i bet my record of the control room.. holds true.

there are 3 photos of the Electric Engine Room, they are not in there? I'm not fluent in her machinery haha

Sounds like a reasonable price to me, I will try to get as many plans as I can for my project.
Thanks for the info!
Best regards

Happy to help! best of luck with your project!

 

[Roger Southern]

Oh, gotcha, thanks Roger!

Why is it strange in some cases?

Good question Cam! Well it mainly down to the exemptions; Human use medicines are zero rated for VAT but animal use medicines (sometimes exactly the same drug) are rated at 20% VAT. In other cases it's almost impossible to see what 'value' has been added to attract the tax. But that's Government, or rather Civil Servants who write the policy, for you.........

 

[Cam Houseman]

Good question Cam! Well it mainly down to the exemptions; Human use medicines are zero rated for VAT but animal use medicines (sometimes exactly the same drug) are rated at 20% VAT. In other cases it's almost impossible to see what 'value' has been added to attract the tax. But that's Government, or rather Civil Servants who write the policy, for you.........

Interesting, thanks Roger!

By the way, the (American) National Archives has the upper portion of Titanic's General Arrangement plans (without furniture) in great quality.

hope this helps.

 

[Jose Alvarez 400]

I finally talked to the NMNI and I have purchased 46 of the original plans in high resolution. The next task will be to transcribe all those endless lines and measurements into AutoCAD and create the most accurate plans I can.

 

[Cam Houseman]

I finally talked to the NMNI and I have purchased 46 of the original plans in high resolution. The next task will be to transcribe all those endless lines and measurements into AutoCAD and create the most accurate plans I can.

I hope you enjoy them! They're 100% worth the price.

I forgot to list these, but Jose asked about the quality. I'll use some plans as an example:

Olympic August 1912 Lower Arrangement (upper is around the same)
Size: 12.1mb
Dimensions: 10,127x6,511

A-Deck iron plan:
Size: 45mb
Dimensions: 16,205x3,236

 

[Steven Christian]

Good question Cam! Well it mainly down to the exemptions; Human use medicines are zero rated for VAT but animal use medicines (sometimes exactly the same drug) are rated at 20% VAT. In other cases it's almost impossible to see what 'value' has been added to attract the tax. But that's Government, or rather Civil Servants who write the policy, for you.........

That is strange. In America you can't buy antibiotics without a prescription. But you can buy the exact same ones for your pet if there labeled for animal use. Many of the doomsday prepper people buy them that way. Some countries have an even higher VAT...like 40-50%. But they have exemptions for things like if its a birthday gift. I knew a Titanic enthusiast in one of those countries. She was tight on money so sometimes the VAT would dissuade her from ordering books and or video's about the ship. It was a question of groceries or books. To keep this short and not go into it further I'll just say she had lots of birthdays one year. Cheers.

 

[Tsm2191]

I'm not sure if this is too late but I do have the CAD Titanic plans for the bottom of the hull plating. If anyone is interested in obtaining them here you go:

 

[Steven Christian]

I'm not sure if this is too late but I do have the CAD Titanic plans for the bottom of the hull plating. If anyone is interested in obtaining them here you go:

Not at all. I'm sure someone here will appriciate it and use it. Cheers.