Thomas Kelly
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That Italian fella who got onboard with Jack at the beginning. How did he die? I can't remember. Thanks
What happened to Fabrizio
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Mark Robert Hopkins
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The forward funnel fell on him (and others) in the water while he (and they) were struggling to swim away from the ship.
Daniel Cox
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The original script stated that Fabrizio was to be hit over the head with a boat oar by Carl trying to get into Carls boat........Fabrizio begs for help and Carl whacks him again killing him and he floats away.The other version was going to be that once the 1st funnel fell he (Fabrizio) and others were going to be sucked down the hole left by the funnel.Cameron chose the 3rd version of just been crashed by the falling funnel as we see today.
Mary Hamric
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His name was Cal, BTW. Not Carl.
It was short for Caledon.
Mark Robert Hopkins
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Daniel, are you sure you have the script to the right movie? 
It would have said "Cal" in the script. I say this because you use "Carl" three times, suggesting that it couldn't have been a typo, hehe. Just kidding.
By the way, if that was the way Fab originally died, that no doubt would have drawn more hatred from the Audience to Cal. He tried to shoot Rose and Jack, so murder wasn't beyond his capabilities.
It would have said "Cal" in the script. I say this because you use "Carl" three times, suggesting that it couldn't have been a typo, hehe. Just kidding. By the way, if that was the way Fab originally died, that no doubt would have drawn more hatred from the Audience to Cal. He tried to shoot Rose and Jack, so murder wasn't beyond his capabilities.
Iain Stuart Yardley
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Wasn't the Swedish girl that Fabrizio was supposed to have taken a shine to in the deleted scenes last seen hanging off the back of the ship looking pleadingly at Rose to help her? And then Rose just stares at her as if to say "WHAT do you want ME to do about it, huh?" and then just lets her drop. Gawd.
Daniel Cox
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Yes i know i spelt his name wrong , was just a mental block at the time , when i went to edit 60 mins had passed and after that you cannot edit the post in the normal way.Mark you are correct that the Audience already had a hatred of Cal (got it right that time) and maybe Cameron had decided to lay off him a bit by that time
Shane Worthy
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To all,
The original scene was as follows.
284 EXT. COLLAPSIBLE A / OCEAN
The boat is overloaded and half-flooded. Men cling to the sides in the
water. Others, swimming, are drawn to it as their only hope. Cal, standing
in the boat, slaps his oar in the water as a warning.
CAL
Stay back! Keep off!
Fabrizio, exhausted and near the limit, makes it almost to the boat. Cal
CLUBS HIM with the oar, cutting open his scalp.
FABRIZIO
You don't... understand... I have... to get... to America.
CAL
(pointing with the oar)
It's that way!
CLOSE ON FABRIZIO as he floats, panting each breath agony. You see the
spirit leave him.
FABRIZIO'S POV: Cal in SLOW MOTION, yelling and wielding the oar. A demon
in a tuxedo. The image fades to black.
*Cameron, James. Titanic: James Cameron’s Illustrated Screenplay. New York:
Harper Entertainment, December 1, 1998. 368 pages.
The original scene was as follows.
284 EXT. COLLAPSIBLE A / OCEAN
The boat is overloaded and half-flooded. Men cling to the sides in the
water. Others, swimming, are drawn to it as their only hope. Cal, standing
in the boat, slaps his oar in the water as a warning.
CAL
Stay back! Keep off!
Fabrizio, exhausted and near the limit, makes it almost to the boat. Cal
CLUBS HIM with the oar, cutting open his scalp.
FABRIZIO
You don't... understand... I have... to get... to America.
CAL
(pointing with the oar)
It's that way!
CLOSE ON FABRIZIO as he floats, panting each breath agony. You see the
spirit leave him.
FABRIZIO'S POV: Cal in SLOW MOTION, yelling and wielding the oar. A demon
in a tuxedo. The image fades to black.
*Cameron, James. Titanic: James Cameron’s Illustrated Screenplay. New York:
Harper Entertainment, December 1, 1998. 368 pages.
Mary Hamric
Member
There is commentary in the Illustrated Screenplay as to why this scene was cut, and Daniel, you are right. He cut it because once he got his way on a boat with the child Cameron felt we already despised him enough. The oar on Fabrizio wasn't necessary.
Mark Robert Hopkins
Member
Reading the script alone made me hate Cal even more. Still, it's only a movie...
Jeremy Lee
Member
Cal's there for you to hate folks!
Shane Worthy
Member
But just a reminder,
Jim didn't want Cal to be your typical cardboard cutout villain, if you will. Cal has depth. Yes, he used the little girl to get on the boat, yes, he shot at Rose, and yes, he was rude. But overall, he still loved Rose, and we see that when he looks for her at the end.
All Ahead Full!
Shane N. Worthy
Jim didn't want Cal to be your typical cardboard cutout villain, if you will. Cal has depth. Yes, he used the little girl to get on the boat, yes, he shot at Rose, and yes, he was rude. But overall, he still loved Rose, and we see that when he looks for her at the end.
All Ahead Full!
Shane N. Worthy
Iain Stuart Yardley
Member
Nah, he was looking for his diamond. He wanted a wife to be his pet poodle to show off to his mates. Maybe he thought he loved her but all I saw was him trying to control her, clip her wings, be attentive and concerned only with him. That's suffocation.
And as for the mother! Well! "Get in the BOAT Rose!" she was squealing, rapidly picturing herself becoming a seamstress, all her plans of jumping on the Hockley bandwagon sinking with the ship. Poor Rudolph the Red-Nosed Ruth, sitting in the lifeboat, sniffling. If she loved her daughter she wouldn't have treated her like a way out and way upward.
Never mind, it's only a film.
Cheers,
Boz
And as for the mother! Well! "Get in the BOAT Rose!" she was squealing, rapidly picturing herself becoming a seamstress, all her plans of jumping on the Hockley bandwagon sinking with the ship. Poor Rudolph the Red-Nosed Ruth, sitting in the lifeboat, sniffling. If she loved her daughter she wouldn't have treated her like a way out and way upward.
Never mind, it's only a film.
Cheers,
Boz
Shane Worthy
Member
Iain,
Cal was not looking for the diamond, but Rose. This is from Jim's mouth...
All Ahead Full!
Shane N. Worthy
Cal was not looking for the diamond, but Rose. This is from Jim's mouth...
All Ahead Full!
Shane N. Worthy
Mark Robert Hopkins
Member
You say that as if you know Jim personally, Shane.
