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White Star's Ten Largest

Discussion in 'White Star Line History' started by Daniel Odysseus, Aug 11, 2002.

  1. According to greatoceanliners.net, these are the TEN LARGEST WHITE STAR SHIPS...

    1. Majestic (1922) 56,551 gross tons
    2. Britannic (1915) 48,158 gross tons
    3. Titanic 46,328 gross tons
    4. Olympic (1911) 45,324 gross tons
    5. Homeric 34,351 gross tons
    6. Justicia 32,234 gross tons
    7. Georgic (1932) 27,759 gross tons
    8. Britannic (1930) 26,943 gross tons
    9. Belgic (1917) 24,547 gross tons
    10. Adriatic (1907) 24,541 gross tons

    However, didn't, after Olympic's post-Titanic refit, actually SURPASS Titanic? This list must be counting the size of the ships upon their entrance to the fleet... Anyway, I saw this list, and I thought I would post it, just in case anyone was curious... Greatoceanliners.net doesn't have a Cunard one... I'll have to put it together myself...

    -D.O.

    [Moderator's Note: The Cunard list, once part of this thread, now appears as a separate thread in the "Cunard" subtopic. MAB]
     
  2. This is an interesting list. I looked up the ship called Belgic (1917) that you mentioned as number 9. After looking at a picture of the ship, I thought to myself "There's no way she's over 24,000 tons in tonnage" because that would make her barely larger than Adriatic, the largest of White Star's "Big Four." After forging through the technical bits, she is indeed larger than Adriatic, with a mere 6 ton!!! difference between her and Adriatic.

    Here are pictures of the two ships for comparison: I still hold my opinion that Adriatic looks WAY larger than Belgic IV (1917)

    296617.jpg

    Belgic IV (1917) -- 24,547 tons

    296618.jpg

    Adriatic (1907) -- 24,541 tons
     
  3. Mark Baber

    Mark Baber Moderator Member

    Hello, Alexandre---

    Unless they're on the same scale, there's really no way to compare the relative sizes of two ships just from photos like these two. As Belgic, she was almost exactly the same size (in tonnage terms) as Adriatic, but when finally finished as Red Star's Belgenland after the war ended, she would be more than 2500 tons larger than Adriatic.

    Personally, I wouldn't include either Justicia or Belgenland in this list, as neither was a true White Star ship. That would bump Baltic II and Cedric up to 9 and 10.
     
  4. George GJY

    George GJY Member

    With this list, isn't the Olympic the largest White Star liner to have never sank? Even Majestic caught fire and sank in the end, to say nothing of Britannic and Titanic.
     
  5. Mark Baber

    Mark Baber Moderator Member

    Yes, with the note that when Majestic caught fire and sank in 1939, it was (a) in her reincarnation as H.M.S. Caledonia, not as Majestic, and (b) at her mooring at Rosyth, not in midocean. Afterwards, Caledonia was refloated and scrapped.
     
  6. George GJY

    George GJY Member

    Seems that the larger the completed White Star Line ship based on tons, the more likely it is to sink [especially with 67 % those White Star Line above 30000 tons, 75% of those above 40000 tons and 100% above 50000 tons and even above RMS Olympic's 45324-46439 ton ranges being sunk, with the only White Star Line ship above 50,000 tons being the only one to be salvaged thanks to sinking in port]. But, as in a scientific experiment, the fewer the samples involved in an experiment, the less accurate and more skewed [especially in percentage or effectiveness] of the results. And 6 ships above 30000 tons, as in the list below:

    1. Majestic (1922) 56,551 gross tons [sank in 1939]
    2. Britannic (1915) 48,158 gross tons [sank in 1916]
    3. Titanic 46,328 gross tons [sank in 1912]
    4. Olympic (1911) 45,324 gross tons
    5. Homeric 34,351 gross tons
    6. Justicia 32,234 gross tons [sank in 1918]

    to show for this statement, while accurate in total, isn't a number large enough to provide much accuracy in effects and percentages compared to observation.
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2018
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