Why are they making a Titanic II?


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I honestly think there is not enough publicity about this project Titanic is the worlds most famous ship everybody knows the name. China is just so strict & paranoid about internet they censor everything. I'm confident it will be built they come so far & it' half completed. I'm sure if they we're more open about the project a multi millionaire would be smart enough to invest in it. Makes me believe James Cameron never heard about this project you think he would invest in a heart beat he is obsessed with Titanic. I scour the internet daily about this project if I find anything new I'll let you know.
 

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I looked up some information on the Sarel Gous Titanic Replica project from 1998—2002. I noticed something draws concerns not only with the future possibility of RMS Olympic being rebuilt, but also with the Romandisea Titanic replica.
It says this about the Sarel Gous one :
From the outset the intention was to build an exact copy but with enough lifeboats. Due to SOLAS regulations, this proved to be impossible to meet. Modern fire-prevention regulations prohibit the large-scale use of wood in the interior.[6] It is also no longer legal to have lifeboats mounted as high as they were on Titanic. Standards now require that life boats be mounted no higher than 15 m (49 ft) above the waterline. A replica Titanic would require a height exemption similar to that granted the RMS Queen Mary 2.

The lifeboat thing isn't too much of a concern, but the wooden interior one is. Does that mean it would be illegal to rebuild her interior, especiallt the Grand Staircase and the À La Carte restaurant?
But it also seems weird. The Celebrity Millenium had a exclusive restaurant called The Olympic which was a replication of the RMS Olympic's A La Carte restaurant and even boasted that it used the original wood panellings from the Olympic. So, could that not be the case?
 
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Good question.

It might be illegal to build unless a compromise is made to use fake wood (or a material that looks like wood that is fire proof) OR a comprehensive Water sprinkler system is hidden between the decks.

Also there's been rumours that the Olympic's La Carte Restaurant has been removed from the Celebrity Millennium and possibly scrapped (let's all hope the latter isn't true...)

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As for the lifeboats, I aways wondered this, but in the case of a capsize (which is how most ships often sink) would't it make more sense to keep them higher so they don't become submerged quicker or is it because in the event of a capsize it would be easier to travel downwards than upwards (and make it easier to lower them closer to the water)?
 
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Aelvir

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Plus I think prohibiting excessive usage of wood on the interior should be given special leniency for vessels that are a historical replication and used as floating hotels of sorts. I could understand if the replica was meant to actually sail the seas. But I think if Olympic and/or Titanic would be rebuilt as a floating hotel, I don't think the wooden interior should be a concern. And to my knowledge, fake wood would look less like the actual wood used for the iconic interiors used on the ship, and could probably be less durable and manageable as well, I think. Besides, to my knowledge there hasn't really been an issue with her wooden interior in the past, especially in terms of fire. If proper fire safety is employed, the Olympic and Titanic's wooden interior would be no issue. Personally, I think using fake wood, or even opting out of those wooden interiors entirely would due the Olympic-class liners a disservice. And I REALLY hope the Romandisea Titanic replica doesn't get affected by this.
It should also be noted that the information also stated that the RMS Queen Mary 2 was given high exemption to the lifeboat regulation.
 
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Titanic 2 is far from cancelled yet! Clive Palmers dream from Australia to build a full size Titanic 2 may be over due to serious finical difficulties. As the Chinese have taken up the idea of building a full size replica of Titanic for there Romandisea Seven Star International Cultural Tourism Report in China. Very much a tourist attraction. The ship construction is well on the way now under the help of two Titanic historian. Steve Hall and Bruce Beveridge under EJ Smith Consulting company. The Chinese are very knee to get the right details as nearer as she was built to. O though the three million rivets will be replaced for welding! The ship is built in a dry dock next to a river and will remain there. When finished flooded giving the impression floating up to her water line. There is one thing for sure. She will be the unsinkable!
 
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Clive Palmers dream from Australia to build a full size Titanic 2 may be over due to serious finical difficulties.
There's no "maybe" here I'm afraid. Not only is it over, it never got off the ground. The dates kept slipping so what you heard in any announcements and press conferences was all fluff with no substance. No request for proposals was ever issued, no designs were submitted, no bids were ever taken or even offered and not so much as a plate of steel was cut.

It was all smoke and mirrors.

The static attraction being built by the Chinese IS happening, but how accurate it is or even whether or not the enterprise succeeds remains to be seen.
 

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Hi Michael,
It never got of the ground? So what are all the photographs publish and write up in the British Titanic Society Atlantic Daily Bulletin in March 2018 are all about? Clearly show the ship is well under contraction and full size too. However how close to the original is remain to be seen. The completion date is set in 2019! Again remains to be seen. I known the EJ Smith Consulting and the Chinese company have visit the Kempton Steam Museum to see the size of a very large working 800 ton triple expansion engine. (I can see that will be some challenge to match what was in the Titanic to?) Two engines at a 1000 tons each, I wander?
The perfect plug for the next steam up at Kempton Steam Museum 22-23 September 2018 next to Kempton Park race course near Heathrow airport. As this engine has been used in films and documentaries of the Titanic. More information can be found on the website to. I hope to be there as one of the many volunteers.
Mike.
 
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So what are all the photographs publish and write up in the British Titanic Society Atlantic Daily Bulletin in March 2018 are all about?
Clive Palmer's project never got off the ground. Still hasn't and never will. It was smoke and mirrors from the start.

The Chinese enterprise is different. Don't confuse the two. Obviously something is happening there but whether or not it comes to any sort of fruition remains to be seen.
 

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Michael,View attachment 42381 View attachment 42382
If you look at website Romandisea Seven Star Theme Park China you can see Titanic 2 has started. The photos in the BTS Atlantic Daily Bulletin were taken in late September 2017. Now one year on no doubt a lot more work has taken place. .
See enclosed photos. Sorry they are on there side I can't get the computer to turn them around?
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I understand all of that.

Clive Palmer has NOTHING to do with what the Chinese are trying to accomplish. His initiative was a fantasy which never happened. It is a separate enterprise which he has no involvement with
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The Chinese enterprise just might.

Don't get the two confused.
 

Mike Spooner

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Michael,
I never said Clive Palmer was to do with the new Chinese deal.
If you think that please except my apology.
As far as I known today Titanic 2 or some times know as T 2 is well under way. If I any further information I will let ET know about it.
 
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I read that article. He is the chairman of the Blue Star Line. Is that the original Blue Star Line? Is their any rules/protocols for a company to name itself from a company from the past. Like a new shipping line calling itself the White Star Line?
 
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New video of progress

TBH i like the look, but it really bugs me that the first class dinning room is not on D Deck and the stern looks like a modern one, not attractive in my opinion
 

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There is an existing Blue Star Line in Denmark. It does all sorts of marine work, such as laying cables and pipelines. Palmer loves litigation, so he can argue with them.
 

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Doesn't this bloke belong in a padded cell somewhere? He's been peddling this for years and so far, ain't nuthin' happenin!

Bill Willard posted about this on the Facebook feeds and it's getting the same skeptical reception.
Coincidentally, the original Titanic did in fact possess a padded room -- now if only we had a time machine so we could deposit him in said room (it is not found on the current state of the wreck, as it was in the breakup zone).
 
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