Why does she have fishing nets around her
- Thread starter Marko
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Brandon Whited
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Michael H. Standart
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Marko, this is, to my understanding, quite a common problem with sunken vessels in shallow areas which happen to be used as fisheries. The nets get entangled in the wreckage and can't be freed so they have to be cut away if they are not torn away.
As salvage would require carefull going through the local debris field or going into the wreck itself with the proper equipment, fishing nets are pretty useless for salvage.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
As salvage would require carefull going through the local debris field or going into the wreck itself with the proper equipment, fishing nets are pretty useless for salvage.
Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
Matthew Lips
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Not to mention that these nets are a potential death trap for divers. The Andrea Doria is also covered in nets, and if memory serves they have been the cause of more than one death amongst divers working the wreck.
Mark Chirnside
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Hi Marko!
Try my signature link to Michail's Britannic site.
In brief answer, Aegean Sea, thirty lives lost immediately, but several more due to after - effects of the sinking. There are pictures of the sunken ship on websites that can be accessed via Michail's site.
Best,
Mark.
Try my signature link to Michail's Britannic site.
In brief answer, Aegean Sea, thirty lives lost immediately, but several more due to after - effects of the sinking. There are pictures of the sunken ship on websites that can be accessed via Michail's site.
Best,
Mark.
Mark Baber
RIP
Britannic struck a mine in the Aegean Sea, off Kea Island, on 21 November 1916 and sank 55 minutes later. Various sources give the number of deaths as between 21 and 41; they occurred when two lifeboats were shredded by the ship's still turning propellers. Fortunately, no patients were aboard; the balance of the 1,125 medical staff and crew were rescued.
Sources: Mills' HMHS Britannic: The Last Titan; Anderson's White Star; Haws' Merchant Fleets; Eaton & Haas' Falling Star.
Sources: Mills' HMHS Britannic: The Last Titan; Anderson's White Star; Haws' Merchant Fleets; Eaton & Haas' Falling Star.
Yes, i was reading about that today. Wow, i guess this muct have all happened so fast. On the underwater photo the whole fron is like bend, and broken off. If she sank in something like 100-120M of water, and she is 270? M long, didn't she touch the bottom nose first and then the rest kinda just fell in? Is this why the props caught the boats? i mean if it was deep she would have just went straight in? In what matter did she sink in? to the side?
Brandon Whited
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Yes, it did happen fast. As Mark pointed out, the disaster took fifty-five minutes to unfold. She listed heavily to her starboard side, and yes, the bow was driven into the bottom before the rest of the ship was fully submerged. That is why it is so bent out of wack. The propellars were sticking out of the water and were still rotating because there was an attempt to beach the ship, and the lifeboats...and their passengers...were drawn into them.
Cheers,
-B.W.
Cheers,
-B.W.
Wow, that explains everything, thanks Brandon. yeesh, you guys are really experts.
So about this attemp to make it to beach, did they even move at all towards the beach, or was there absolutelly no chance? Does anyone know about this mine that she hit? I've read on a few web sites that she could have sustained that kinda damage? Is that possible? For a ship to withstand an explosion blast? and the titanic couldnt take the Ice. hmmm.
So about this attemp to make it to beach, did they even move at all towards the beach, or was there absolutelly no chance? Does anyone know about this mine that she hit? I've read on a few web sites that she could have sustained that kinda damage? Is that possible? For a ship to withstand an explosion blast? and the titanic couldnt take the Ice. hmmm.
Brandon Whited
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You're welcome, Marko. Expert!? Not me; maybe these other guys! LOL
I have heard that it has never really been confirmed what the source of the explosion on the Britannic was. The mine theory is the most-accepted.
Is it possible for a ship to withstand an explosive blast? Absolutely; if the damage isn't too great, that is. In the case of the Britannic, of course, it was. All those open portholes didn't help much, either! The same thing applies to the Titanic and the damage sustained by the iceberg.
Cheers,
-B.W.
I have heard that it has never really been confirmed what the source of the explosion on the Britannic was. The mine theory is the most-accepted.
Is it possible for a ship to withstand an explosive blast? Absolutely; if the damage isn't too great, that is. In the case of the Britannic, of course, it was. All those open portholes didn't help much, either! The same thing applies to the Titanic and the damage sustained by the iceberg.
Cheers,
-B.W.
Remco Hillen
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In theory she could/should have stayed afloat with the explosion damage she had, the 6 forward compartments were open to the sea.
She was designed to handle that.
The open portholes were the problem, portholes which weren't even allowed to be open during a voyage in wartime.
These allowed water to enter the ship behind the bulkhead between boilerrooms 4 and 5.
You might want to read this website, if you already hadn't, it's full with interesting Britannic info:
Regards,
Remco
She was designed to handle that.
The open portholes were the problem, portholes which weren't even allowed to be open during a voyage in wartime.
These allowed water to enter the ship behind the bulkhead between boilerrooms 4 and 5.
You might want to read this website, if you already hadn't, it's full with interesting Britannic info:
Regards,
Remco
Steve Smith
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On the subject of fishing nets, several wrecks have been located after searchers asked local fishermen about those areas where their nets got snagged or lost. All trawlers will have these areas carefully plotted. Many are rock outcrops etc - but many are wrecks. The team who found Carthpathia used this technique in conjunction with their sonar search, and it was the main clue that led to the discovery of MV Gaul - a ship the UK Government said would never be found.
Dave Moran
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There is a report on the loss of the Gaul available on a web-site that I shall try to locate the address off - I found it via Yahoo by simply inputing ' loss of the gaul' in the search engine.
One of the things the report states is that at the end of the Seventies, after the initial fuss of her loss had died away and she was no longer hot news, the Ministry of Defence had actually located her, pretty much.
However, in the way of such things, folks had moved on, up and out, so that when the story resurfaced, so to speak, the people who HAD known where she was were no longer in that department, and the new folks had no idea where she was- whilst the older folks were constrained by the Official Secrets Act. So they had to go through all the rigmarole of a new search.
Goes to show that, sometimes, one should never posit a conspiracy when the more likely explanation is that the people who did know are simply no longer in a position to tell you.
Mind you - that's not always the case... sometimes they are out to get us.
The lightbulbs told me so...
One of the things the report states is that at the end of the Seventies, after the initial fuss of her loss had died away and she was no longer hot news, the Ministry of Defence had actually located her, pretty much.
However, in the way of such things, folks had moved on, up and out, so that when the story resurfaced, so to speak, the people who HAD known where she was were no longer in that department, and the new folks had no idea where she was- whilst the older folks were constrained by the Official Secrets Act. So they had to go through all the rigmarole of a new search.
Goes to show that, sometimes, one should never posit a conspiracy when the more likely explanation is that the people who did know are simply no longer in a position to tell you.
Mind you - that's not always the case... sometimes they are out to get us.
The lightbulbs told me so...