I'm not familiar with the interview, but I know it has been theorized that this was the case. But, in his account, Gracie recalled helping to load boat 4, and his impression was definitely that it was launched before he encountered Mrs. Brown and Miss Evans.
I trust him on this one.
Anyway, I know you were just putting that on the table for the sake of it, since it is one argument people have raised.
As part of my research into Second Class Titanic victim Martta Hiltunen, I wondered about the pattern in which adult women from Second Class survived or died. I believe out of 93 such passengers on board the Titanic, 80 survived and 13 died, Martta Hiltunen among the latter.
Can someone tell me the rough pattern of the 80 survivors? I mean, which lifeboats did the get away on etc. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that most of those 80 got onto various starboard lifeboats, like Kate Buss in #9.
Anna Hamalainen and Martta Hiltunen, both Finns, were two of the very few non-British Europeans in Second Class. They reached the vicinity of Lifeboat #4 on the port side with Anna's baby son Wiljo but only those two got on board. Martta not only did not join them, but mysteriously did not enter Collapsible D either, which was fitted onto to the same davits minutes after #4 hit the sea and was eventually lowered with some 22 people, less than half its capacity. What's more, I think only 9 or 10 of those on board were women. If Martta had been anywhere nearby when Collapsible D was lowered, surely shoe would have been ushered into the lifeboat.