Encyclopedia Titanica Message Board » Marketplace » Items that require identification, authenticity and / or value » DAILY MIRROR 1912 - Spotting Fakes
Author Message
 

Senan Molony
Posted on Saturday, October 8, 2005 - 12:01 am:       

It drives me nuts to see people paying out huge sums every day for *fake* 1912 Daily Mirrors.

How come so many of those survived and not any of the other dailies from that time? There are always a couple on eBay at any time.

This is how you know if you are thinking of bidding on one:

Senan Molony
Posted on Saturday, October 8, 2005 - 12:04 am:       

Senan Molony
Posted on Saturday, October 8, 2005 - 12:10 am:       

FAKE (from 1972):

http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Daily-Mirror-April-16th-1912-TITANIC-SINKING_W0QQitemZ6565869289QQcategoryZ35965QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

FAKE with smudge:

http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-DAILY-MIRROR-TITANIC-DISASTER-NEWSPAPER_W0QQitemZ6566919743QQcategoryZ13993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

FAKE (16 pages, but lower LH smudge and long lower edge mean it's a reprint from 1972):

http://cgi.ebay.com/Titanic-Newspaper-Daily-Mirror-April-16th-1912_W0QQitemZ6567629539QQcategoryZ35965QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

And these are just the ones currently live on eBay on a basic "Titanic Mirror" search...

Caveat Emptor.
Antonio J. Cazorla Rubira
Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 6:10 am:       

Hello. I need opinion to know if he is original:

http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6600194926

Thanks
Hanco Bol
Posted on Friday, June 5, 2009 - 10:36 pm:       

On Ebay are a lot of reprinted "The New York Times" newspapers available dated April 16, 1912. Could anyone please tell me how you can find out if a newspaper is an original one? I know there is a difference in terms of letterpress for original newspapers vs. offset lithography for reprints, but are there more differences as well so you can see on a picture if the newspaper is original or not?

For instance Ebay item number: 220425846539.

Thank you in advance for your response.
Dave Gittins
Posted on Saturday, June 6, 2009 - 10:55 am:       

One give-away in the NTY copy I have is that page two contains the story of how Carr van Anda got his scoop. The real thing would have whatever stories were current on 16 April, other than Titanic.
Dave Gittins
Titanic: Monument and Warning.
http://users.senet.com.au/~gittins/Book.html
Dave Gittins
Posted on Saturday, June 6, 2009 - 11:14 am:       

The white space at the top of mine is much wider and contains the words "Special Commemorative Edition April 15, 1998. There's also a panel at the bottom, drawing attention to the page 2 story. All the other pages have a blank panel at the bottom.

The paper offered may be real, or it may have been trimmed. It's fragility may prove nothing, as mine is already fragile. I'm suspicious about the 24 pages. TNYT was huge paper in 1912 and I'd expect more.

I'd demand to see page 2 for a start.

If it's still around, the reprint costs about $32 US.
Dave Gittins
Titanic: Monument and Warning.
http://users.senet.com.au/~gittins/Book.html
Hanco Bol
Posted on Saturday, June 6, 2009 - 11:34 am:       

Hi Dave,

Thanks for your insight.

It is good to know some other differences.

Regards,

Hanco
Dave Gittins
Posted on Saturday, June 6, 2009 - 9:42 pm:       

I might add that the reprint contains far more Titanic information than the real 16 April edition. It has Titanic stories from five or six editions, including those covering the arrival of Carpathia.
Dave Gittins
Titanic: Monument and Warning.
http://users.senet.com.au/~gittins/Book.html