Charles James Savage

Charles James Savage

Mr Charles James Savage was born in Brightlingsea, Essex, England on 31 December 1888.1

He was the youngest of four children born to Stephen Charles Savage (1858-1919), a mariner, and Eliza Alice Woods (1862-1925), natives of Hampshire and Essex respectively who had married in 1883. His three siblings were: Winifred Rose (1883-1966, later Mrs Sidney Conrad Siebert), Lilian (1884-1934, later Mrs Harry Thomas Doyle) and Steve Henry (1887-1951).

Charles first appears on the 1891 census with his parents living at Silcotts (?) in Brightlingsea and on the 1901 census the family are resident at 110 Sidney Street, also in Brightlingsea. By the time of the 1911 census the Savage family are resident at 14 Lower Park Road, Brightlingsea; Charles is absent though and presumably at sea.

When Charles signed on to the Titanic he gave his address as 8 Harold Road, Southampton, the same address given by his brother-in-law Sidney Siebert, the husband of his elder sister Winifred. His previous ship had been the Rannoch and as a steward he would earn £3, 15s per month.

Savage was rescued, in which lifeboat remains uncertain.

Charles continued his career at sea throughout the duration of WWI in the merchant service and he was also a prominent member of the Brightlingsea football team. He was married in early 1932 to Edith Monica Brown2 (b. 29 April 1883 in London), much to the disapproval of his family; Edith was a divorcee and had two marriages already under belt and had three children between her two previous husbands. Savage later left the sea and worked on the railways before he earned a living as a storekeeper and he and his wife lived at 122 Oak Road in Luton, Bedfordshire in following years. 

Charles and Edith emigrated to Canada in September 1946, initially settling at 1633 Davie Street in Victoria, British Columbia where he worked as a janitor. His emigration records record him as standing at 5' 10½" and with hazel eyes and with fair hair and complexion.

Charles retired from his janitor job in 1952 and he and his wife later settled in Port Alberni, British Columbia; he became a widow when Edith died on 23 March 1954. Charles himself passed away following a stroke on 21 May 1957 aged 68. He and Edith are buried in Greenwood Cemetery, Port Alberni.

Notes

  1. His death certificate gives the date as 30 December 1888.
  2. Edith was the daughter of Archibald Gerkie Brown and Edith Barrett; her first marriage was in 1902 to William Miller Higgs (1878-1958) and her second to Sydney Leonard Hollis (1886-1957) in 1909. She had two children from her first marriage, William Oswald Barrett (b. 1903) and Archibald Gerkie (b. 1906) and a third from her second marriage, Leonard Ruffo Denzil (b. 1910). Both marriages ended in divorce.

Images

Titanic survivor Charles Joseph Savage
Belfast Telegraph (1912) Titanic Surviving Stewards

Documents and Certificates

1881, 1891, 1901, 1911 Census (England)
Agreement and Account of Crew, National Archives, London; BT100/259
General Register Office: Index of Births, Marriages and Deaths
Central Register of Merchant Seamen (including CR10 Identity Cards), Southampton City Archives / National Archives, (BT348, BT349, BT350)

Bibliography

Craig Stringer (2003) Titanic People (CDROM)
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Comment and discuss

  1. Chris Carr said:

    Hi can anyone give me information about Charles John Savage other than already in Titanica I think this is my granfather but his age is given as 22. His marriage lines say he was 24 in 1905 living at Hastings We have always been told that he was on the Titanic.

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    Maureen Zottoli said:

    Hey there Chris. My name is Maureen and there are a whole lot of "Carr" names in my family and my brother does family trees. Anyway, several researchers got together and combined their efforts to develop a "Carr" sirname Database. Your grandfather may be there. I will ask him to research information regarding Charles John Savage for me and get back with you. Maybe he can provide infomration so that you can research it yourself....That's half the excitement right. Maureen.

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    Maureen Zottoli said:

    I emailed my brother and will wait for his response. Have a great day. Maureen.

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    Maureen Zottoli said:

    Okay Chris, here you go. My Carr Database at RootsWeb's World Connect Project. Hope this helps you. Maureen.

  5. Chris Carr said:

    Thanks for info but I must try to connect up with Savage's I am a Carr by marriage only. scince 1978.

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    Maureen Zottoli said:

    Chris, The site I gave you is a very large database and Carrs are just one name listed. It is not just my brother's information but many use that site. But you must do what you feel is best. Maureen.

  7. Chris Carr said:

    My grandfather Charles J Savage, steward on Titanic survived and disappeared afterwards, I wonder if it was a guilt thing that they had survived, there was no aftercare in those days.

  8. Peter Engberg-Klarström said:

    Dear Chris, I am fairly certain your grandfather Charles James Savage was born in Brightlingsea, Essex in 1888. What became of him afterwards is however not known. If you ever were to find out, would you please let me know? Peter

  9. Geoff Ellis said:

    Dear Chris, your possibly right. Family stories say that my grandfather John Bertram Ellis"jumped ship" in the USA, whether this was straight after the sinking or in later years is not known. My father was born in October 1912 and never discussed his father for the rest of his life. Maybe they could't face coming home like you suggest.

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    Inger Sheil said:

    I'm assuming he doesn't show up in the CRI for seamen circa 1920-1921? I'd be happy to do a look-up, but I'm assuming this has already been checked. Inger

  11. Geoff Ellis said:

    Dear Inger,I did not find out that my grandfather was on Titanic until 3 months ago so have done no other checking, in fact I do not know where to look. It would be great if you could do a look-up in the CRI for me Geoff

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    Inger Sheil said:

    Not a problem - I'll keep an eye out for him in various crew agreements too, just in case. Inger

  13. Kevin Leech said:

    Dear Chris & Peter, I can confirm that Charles J Savage was born at Brightlingsea. He was baptised at All Saints Church Brightlingsea on 27 Jan 1889. His sister Winifred married Sidney Conrad Siebert a bedroom steward on the Titanic on 5th Oct 1907 at Brightlingsea. Charles appears to have been living with his sister and brother in law as they both gave the same address when they signed on to the Titanic. I believe Charles, who survived the disaster, may in later life have lived in America. I have traced the Savage family history back to the mid 1700's with a reasonable degree of... Read full post

  14. Kevin Leech said:

    Dear Chris & Peter, I can confirm that Charles J Savage was born at Brightlingsea. He was baptised at All Saints Church Brightlingsea on 27 Jan 1889. His sister Winifred married Sidney Conrad Siebert a bedroom steward on the Titanic on 5th Oct 1907 at Brightlingsea. Charles appears to have been living with his sister and brother in law as they both gave the same address when they signed on to the Titanic. I believe Charles, who survived the disaster, may in later life have lived in America. I have traced the Savage family history back to the mid 1700's with a reasonable degree... Read full post

  15. Chris Carr said:

    Hi Kevin Thankyou for your help I am not sure if we have the same man as I believe my granfather Charles John H Savage was born AShford and lived in Hastings when my father was born in 1909. Who have you got him married to? I am very interested to know and appreciate your help christine c (we have 2 Christine's on the notice board)

  16. Addison Hart said:

    Wasn't Mr. Savage a Steward? In which case I remember reading something on him, describing on how he had a pistol on the ship. Addison

  17. Kevin Leech said:

    Hi Christine C My Grandmother had some recollections, that were jotted down some years ago, about her Uncle Charlie (Charles J Savage). Charles is believed to have married an American, Monica Hollis, who had lived with him for a long time first as she was already married. I have a family photo of Charles with his sister Mrs Siebert at 'Geikil', Croft Rd, Withdean, Brighton it is undated but probably taken in late 1930s or early 1940s. I dont know much else about Charles J. Savage, except that he was the son of Stephen Charles Savage and Eliza Alice Savage nee Woods and as a young man... Read full post

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