Albert Charles Edward Self

Albert Charles Edward Self was born in Southampton, Hampshire, England on 11 January 1888 1. He was the son of James Self (b. 1849) and Harriett Cosser (b. 1861). His mother was from Salisbury, Wiltshire and his father is believed to have been from Southampton; they were married in late 1882 in South Stoneham. Together they had at least four children: James (b. 1883), Mabel Ellen (b. 1884), George William (b. 1885) and Albert.

Albert's father died in 1887 and his mother was remarried in 1890 in Southampton to Henry Walter Hatch (b. 1870 in London) and together they had six children, three of whom survived infancy.

On the 1891 census Albert his listed with his mother, siblings and step-family at 19 Edward Road, Freemantle, Southampton and his stepfather is described as a housepainter. They have moved to 36 Kingsley Road, in Freemantle by the time of the 1901 census and Albert's stepfather now described as a dock labourer. Albert has also gained three step-siblings: Mark Gilbert (b. 1894), Violet Dorothy (b. 1897) and Agnes Elizabeth (b. 1901).

On the 1911 census Albert, listed as Bert, is still living with his mother and step-father, now at 3 Kingsley Road. Also present, besides his step-siblings, is his fiancée Henrietta Janette Candy (b. 1888 in Southampton). Albert was listed as a dock labourer.

When he signed-on to the Titanic, on 6 April 1912, he gave his address as Kingsley Road, Southampton and he had transferred from the Oceanic. As a Fireman he received monthly wages of £6.

Self survived the sinking.  It is not known in which lifeboat he was rescued.

Albert was married within weeks of the Titanic disaster to Henrietta Janette Candy and they went on to have five children: Albert George (1913-1997), Gilbert William (1915-1983), Dorothy Mary (1918-1998), Andrew J. (b. 1924) and Peggy M. (b. 1928).

His wife passed away aged 41 in 1929 but he was remarried in 1952 in Southampton to Minnie Kate Murphy (nee Davidson, b. October 18, 1899 in Southampton).

Albert, or Edward as he preferred to be known, continued to work at sea and he remained in Southampton until his death in 1954.  He is buried in Hollybrook Cemetery, Southampton (section C3, plot 90) in an unmarked grave.

His second wife passed away in 1976.

Notes

He would give his birthdate as 11 January 1887 on his c. 1919 crew card.

References and Sources

Agreement and Account of Crew (PRO London, BT100/259)
Craig Stringer (2003) Titanic People, CD-ROM

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  1. Tim Self said:

    My name is Tim Self I live in New Zealand , my parents emigrated in 1957 from Southampton, my Dads name was Edward Self born Southampton 22 November 1919 , this gentleman could be my relation even my Grandfather......any relatives out there ? email [email protected] .com

  2. Eddself said:

    hi,my name is Eddie self,my farther also Eddie self grew up in freshfeild rd which is just round the corner from the address given by the 1887 Edward self me and my dad still live in the area. As far as I'm aware there is only one self family in Southampton,my dad had 12 brothers and sisters,so there is a strong possibility we could be related !!!

  3. Oscar said:

    Well you are both wrong sorry to say this is my great grandfather my name being Oscar self he is also on my side of the family there is a slight chance that the self name from the top of th tree was carried down the other side and you two are my 4th cousins or uncles depending on how old you are

  4. Dale Plank said:

    Hi Oscar, my gran was Peggy M (b.1928), daughter of Albert. Would love to hear more.

  5. Kevin Savage said:

    Hi Dale My Mother was Dorothy my auntie Peggy used to live in Hamble in Hampshire when I was very young and moved over seas to ? where she had a couple of kids one in the air force and a daughter if you can verify where she moved to would love to talk..Kevin

  6. Kevin Savage said:

    Hi Dale my mother was your gran's sister Dorothy Mary 1918 - 1998. I used to visit Peggy and family when they lived in Hamble in Hampshire UK. she and her husband then moved overseas I know they had at least two children one in the air force and a girl name escapes me but she visited when I was a teenager in the UK you must be related to the son or the daughter. would love to talk Kevin Savage

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