Mr Elgar John Guy

Elgar John Guy was baptised at St Peter's in Commercial Road in Southampton on 28 January 1883. His parents were Edward John and Elizabeth Guy, of 1 Hamilton Terrace, Commercial Road. His father's occupation was "bookseller's assistant." The family, which also includes Elgar's older sister Florence,  appears on the 1891 and 1901 censuses at the same address. In 1901 Edward John was "living on his own means, and in 1901 he was an "Artist," and his place of birth is Lymington or Keyhaven. Although  Elgar's age is correctly given as 8 in 1891, by 1901 he has aged 2 extra years, and is recorded as being 20. He belongs to the South African Constabulary. Florence is a teacher of music. Elgar is not present on the 1911 census, but the other 3 are living with Elgar's uncle Frank Dunmore Shoosmith at 5 College Terrace, Southampton1. Elgar may have already been working on the liners. 

Elgar survived the sinking of the Titanic in lifeboat no 5.

He married Daisy Scragg at St Luke's, Onslow Road, Southampton, soon after the disaster, on 29 July 1912, Edward John is now a stationer, and Daisy's father John William is a "turner" (1911 census: "engineer") Elgar gave his address as 85 Cranbury Avenue: Daisy was living a few doors away at 81. He is still, at this point, a steward.

He died "after a short illness" 16 Jan 1922. The administration of his estate was given to Daisy 20 April 1922, and his effects totalled £373 15s. He was working as a wireworker. He is buried in Southampton Old Cemetery with his father. The grave is unmarked.

Daisy placed a notice in the front page of the Hampshire Advertiser, 21 January 1922, reading "GUY.- On January 16th, at 5 College Terrace, Elgar John Guy, the beloved husband of Daisy Guy, after a brief illness."


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The list of crew published with the US Senate Inquiry report gives Elgar's address as 5 College Terrace, Milton Abbas. However, the recent release of the 1911 census does not list any such address in that town. There is, however, a College Terrace in London Road, Southampton.
References and Sources
Agreement and Account of Crew (PRO London, BT100/259)
Southampton Parish Registers, Southampton City Archives.
"Titanic Victims buried in the Old Cemetery, the Common, Southampton," by Brian Ticehurst. Southampton City Council, 2011.
Friends of Southampton Old Cemetery
Hampshire Advertiser 21 January 1922 p 1
Census Returns, The National Archives  
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